Are you Kidding?

[Kaiju4Hire]

You guys review bomb an amazing game, a game we all where waiting for for over 12 years, A proper, return to form Ace Combat so exquisite it brings a tear to the eye. Amazing graphics, amazing gameplay. and even amazing music score, but because a series that has always been built around a controller, played best with a controller, you are going to label it a garbage all because it doesn't support HOTAS out of the box?

You do realise that all this is going to do is make the devs never release another Ace Combat on PC.

I knew this game was going to play best with a controller, the joystick bundles in the past where just a novelty and really didn't enhance the gameplay in fact it hindered.
The fact that this game heavily relies on the use of a PoV stick and not a PoV hat switch to smoothly look around in the cockpit. A hat switch will only snap the view and not allow you to keep eyes on.
The way the game is designed and how the flight models work, a flight stick is not a good choice, the game is way to twitchy for a flight stick, you will often be under compensating or over compensating in flight.

How do I know, I owned the Hori Flight Stick for ace Combat 5, I owned the stick for Ace Combat 6, was not a joy to play with, I grabbed the controller and just played with that and left those sticks sitting on a shelf.


I have never in my life seen such entitlement untill today.

I own the Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas a $500 A-10c replica F.C.S and you hear no complaints from me about this topic, I love the game, it's what we have been waiting for.

[Vaporous Shadow]

This really is insane. I hope Valve lets them remove all of these HOTAS spam reviews or something, it isn't fairly representing the game.

[Panic Fire]

Originally posted by Kaiju4Hire:

You guys review bomb an amazing game, a game we all where waiting for for over 12 years, A proper, return to form Ace Combat so exquisite it brings a tear to the eye. Amazing graphics, amazing gameplay. and even amazing music score, but because a series that has always been built around a controller, played best with a controller, you are going to label it a garbage all because it doesn't support HOTAS out of the box?

You do realise that all this is going to do is make the devs never release another Ace Combat on PC.

I knew this game was going to play best with a controller, the joystick bundles in the past where just a novelty and really didn't enhance the gameplay in fact it hindered.
The fact that this game heavily relies on the use of a PoV stick and not a PoV hat switch to smoothly look around in the cockpit. A hat switch will only snap the view and not allow you to keep eyes on.
The way the game is designed and how the flight models work, a flight stick is not a good choice, the game is way to twitchy for a flight stick, you will often be under compensating or over compensating in flight.

How do I know, I owned the Hori Flight Stick for ace Combat 5, I owned the stick for Ace Combat 6, was not a joy to play with, I grabbed the controller and just played with that and left those sticks sitting on a shelf.


I have never in my life seen such entitlement untill today.

I own the Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas a $500 A-10c replica F.C.S and you hear no complaints from me about this topic, I love the game, it's what we have been waiting for.

FOR THE LAST TIME. HORI has released a hotas with nearly every version of Ace combat since the very first one on psx. This game and flight sticks are litterly uttered in the same breath. The games even sell with a flight stick included. Please for the love of god stop with this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ excuse that the game was designed for a controller, when they've been selling flight sticks for the game since the series started.

[jasyn]

The game seems fine on a ps4 controller atm with Steam generic controller settings. Also im at 60 fps 1080p on a gtx 1050ti. I have a HOTAS and i could careless for it for this game on day one. So many people don't know how to be clever with third party tools as well. Hope these guys didn't go out and buy a HOTAS just for AC7.

[Kaiju4Hire]

Originally posted by Panic Fire:

Originally posted by Kaiju4Hire:

You guys review bomb an amazing game, a game we all where waiting for for over 12 years, A proper, return to form Ace Combat so exquisite it brings a tear to the eye. Amazing graphics, amazing gameplay. and even amazing music score, but because a series that has always been built around a controller, played best with a controller, you are going to label it a garbage all because it doesn't support HOTAS out of the box?

You do realise that all this is going to do is make the devs never release another Ace Combat on PC.

I knew this game was going to play best with a controller, the joystick bundles in the past where just a novelty and really didn't enhance the gameplay in fact it hindered.
The fact that this game heavily relies on the use of a PoV stick and not a PoV hat switch to smoothly look around in the cockpit. A hat switch will only snap the view and not allow you to keep eyes on.
The way the game is designed and how the flight models work, a flight stick is not a good choice, the game is way to twitchy for a flight stick, you will often be under compensating or over compensating in flight.

How do I know, I owned the Hori Flight Stick for ace Combat 5, I owned the stick for Ace Combat 6, was not a joy to play with, I grabbed the controller and just played with that and left those sticks sitting on a shelf.


I have never in my life seen such entitlement untill today.

I own the Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas a $500 A-10c replica F.C.S and you hear no complaints from me about this topic, I love the game, it's what we have been waiting for.

FOR THE LAST TIME. HORI has released a hotas with nearly every version of Ace combat since the very first one on psx. This game and flight sticks are litterly uttered in the same breath. The games even sell with a flight stick included. Please for the love of god stop with this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ excuse that the game was designed for a controller, when they've been selling flight sticks for the game since the series started.

No No no they didn't, Air Combat, Ace Combat 2, Ace Combat 3 and Ace Combat 4 didn't have a flight stick. The only after market flight sticks that where made and sucked major ass for AC4 was by pelican I still have the damn thing..... the PS1 games where built on the controller, that dual stick thing was made for decent and Mechwarrior 2. Ace Combat 5 was the first to actually have a combat stick made specifically for it. Which was a redesigned Saitek x45. Ace Combat zero didn't come with a flight stick, you had to use the Ace Combat 5 stick and Ace Combat 6 came with a stick but was the only game that could use it ( over G fighters didn't take advantage sadly )

So no bud, no, and clearly you didn't even read my full statement because I clearly state why Ace Combat revolves around a controller, hell it's even on their in the past specifically made joysticks. The PoV thumb stick, how else you going to get those smooth full degrees of head movement freedom? A pov hat can't do that without snapping to specified degrees.

[Bird Man]

Originally posted by Kaiju4Hire:

You guys review bomb an amazing game, a game we all where waiting for for over 12 years, A proper, return to form Ace Combat so exquisite it brings a tear to the eye. Amazing graphics, amazing gameplay. and even amazing music score, but because a series that has always been built around a controller, played best with a controller, you are going to label it a garbage all because it doesn't support HOTAS out of the box?

You do realise that all this is going to do is make the devs never release another Ace Combat on PC.

I knew this game was going to play best with a controller, the joystick bundles in the past where just a novelty and really didn't enhance the gameplay in fact it hindered.
The fact that this game heavily relies on the use of a PoV stick and not a PoV hat switch to smoothly look around in the cockpit. A hat switch will only snap the view and not allow you to keep eyes on.
The way the game is designed and how the flight models work, a flight stick is not a good choice, the game is way to twitchy for a flight stick, you will often be under compensating or over compensating in flight.

How do I know, I owned the Hori Flight Stick for ace Combat 5, I owned the stick for Ace Combat 6, was not a joy to play with, I grabbed the controller and just played with that and left those sticks sitting on a shelf.


I have never in my life seen such entitlement untill today.

I own the Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas a $500 A-10c replica F.C.S and you hear no complaints from me about this topic, I love the game, it's what we have been waiting for.

Then go play the game and have fun. The people who are upset are the ones who wanted to play with a HOTAS (which the dev team said they would support). Not sure why you'd be upset that other people are upset. Steam review scores will not impact whether or not there are future Ace Combat games on PC. Only sales will impact that.

[HunterNXJ]

"A review bomb is an Internet phenomenon in which large groups of people leave negative user reviews for video games and other products in an attempt to harm their sales and popularity."

It is not review bombing. People are reviewing based on what they are experiencing.

[Freyar]

Originally posted by HunterNXJ:

"A review bomb is an Internet phenomenon in which large groups of people leave negative user reviews for video games and other products in an attempt to harm their sales and popularity."

It is not review bombing. People are reviewing based on what they are experiencing.

People voting negative on Metro Last Light and whatnot are bombing. This is not.

[BACON WARRIOR]

Originally posted by Kaiju4Hire:

I have never in my life seen such entitlement untill today.

If this is true then you have not live long enough

[This_is_Citrus]

Are YOU kidding? This is hardly a game, it's a god awful port. You can't even play the game above 1080p? But the PS4 pro and Xbox 1X play it at 4k? What the absolute ♥♥♥♥. Not to mention half assed support for KBM and no support for HOTAS.

Trash port. Was going to buy but not I might as well buy it on console for better graphics, first time those words have EVER come out of my mouth.

[TragicDelight]

Originally posted by This_is_Citrus:

Are YOU kidding? This is hardly a game, it's a god awful port. You can't even play the game above 1080p? But the PS4 pro and Xbox 1X play it at 4k? What the absolute ♥♥♥♥. Not to mention half assed support for KBM and no support for HOTAS.

Trash port. Was going to buy but not I might as well buy it on console for better graphics, first time those words have EVER come out of my mouth.

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[Bird Man]

Originally posted by This_is_Citrus:

Are YOU kidding? This is hardly a game, it's a god awful port. You can't even play the game above 1080p? But the PS4 pro and Xbox 1X play it at 4k? What the absolute ♥♥♥♥. Not to mention half assed support for KBM and no support for HOTAS.

Trash port. Was going to buy but not I might as well buy it on console for better graphics, first time those words have EVER come out of my mouth.

try to switch the screen mode to fullscreen and then close to desktop. When you boot it up again, it might allow you to choose 4K. That fix has apparently worked for soem people.

[Digital Fulcrum]

It's the return of Ace Combat as a crappy console to PC port. I will be more than happy to buy the game for PC, season pass, delux edition (IMO AC7 has the best sound track of them all), everything if the issue gets addressed but that factor is unkown right now.

[Kaiju4Hire]

Originally posted by This_is_Citrus:

Are YOU kidding? This is hardly a game, it's a god awful port. You can't even play the game above 1080p? But the PS4 pro and Xbox 1X play it at 4k? What the absolute ♥♥♥♥. Not to mention half assed support for KBM and no support for HOTAS.

Trash port. Was going to buy but not I might as well buy it on console for better graphics, first time those words have EVER come out of my mouth.

Actually the PS4 pro is the only system that supports 1080p, any other system including the xbone x is 900p or lower. Also I have ran and seen others running the game at 4k. The games again was built around the controller, not my fault you are a dumb ass.

[This_is_Citrus]

Originally posted by Kaiju4Hire:

Originally posted by This_is_Citrus:

Are YOU kidding? This is hardly a game, it's a god awful port. You can't even play the game above 1080p? But the PS4 pro and Xbox 1X play it at 4k? What the absolute ♥♥♥♥. Not to mention half assed support for KBM and no support for HOTAS.

Trash port. Was going to buy but not I might as well buy it on console for better graphics, first time those words have EVER come out of my mouth.

Actually the PS4 pro is the only system that supports 1080p, any other system including the xbone x is 900p or lower. Also I have ran and seen others running the game at 4k. The games again was built around the controller, not my fault you are a dumb ass.

WHAT? Are you a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot? The PS4 pro runs games at 2160p which is 4k, however a lot of times it renders at 1960p and upscales it using checkerboard method to 4k. The Xbox 1x is actually more powerful and renders more games in full 2160p which is 4k The only console that runs at 900p is the Nintendo Switch in handheld mode, which doesn't even have Ace Combat on it. So what the ♥♥♥♥ are you smoking, kid? Either way, you're welcome for the education on the resolution of current gen consoles.

[Kaiju4Hire]

Originally posted by This_is_Citrus:

Originally posted by Kaiju4Hire:

Actually the PS4 pro is the only system that supports 1080p, any other system including the xbone x is 900p or lower. Also I have ran and seen others running the game at 4k. The games again was built around the controller, not my fault you are a dumb ass.

WHAT? Are you a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ idiot? The PS4 pro runs games at 2160p which is 4k, however a lot of times it renders at 1960p and upscales it using checkerboard method to 4k. The Xbox 1x is actually more powerful and renders more games in full 2160p which is 4k The only console that runs at 900p is the Nintendo Switch in handheld mode, which doesn't even have Ace Combat on it. So what the ♥♥♥♥ are you smoking, kid? Either way, you're welcome for the education on the resolution of current gen consoles.

Then WTF is this?

https://www.usgamer.net/articles/ace-combat-7-bandai-namco-ps4-pro-xbox-one-x-better-graphics

1080p 60fps. It uses AA to smooth the edges.

DUMB A$@