Is the Fabled Tortoise useful at all?

[Finger]

I've just recently gotten one, and my initial thought is that it seems like kind of a joke. Huge capacity, but the movement speed reduction seems to make it worthless. Am I missing something? Does anyone actually put it to good use?

[dARE]

not unless you wanna stand still and fight the hordes

[imelman]

Originally posted by dARE:

not unless you wanna stand still and fight the hordes

I agree.

[WaxxFetish]

Oh, I actually love it with zero's Sniper and Sal's Raider mods. You need a low level Tortoise and a mod with shield capacity nerf higher than the capacity of your Tortoise. You get a permanent +50% speed buff and a constant proccing of Fearless or Out Of Bubblegum (assuming that you've specced them in).

[ShinkuTear]

Originally posted by WaxxFetish:

You get a permanent +50% speed buff and a constant proccing of Fearless or Out Of Bubblegum (assuming that you've specced them in).

Sorta like giving Maya the Rough Rider and a Breakneck Banshee mod, only +50% instead of +110%?

[WaxxFetish]

Originally posted by ShinkuTear:

Originally posted by WaxxFetish:

You get a permanent +50% speed buff and a constant proccing of Fearless or Out Of Bubblegum (assuming that you've specced them in).

Sorta like giving Maya the Rough Rider and a Breakneck Banshee mod, only +50% instead of +110%?

Pretty much, you can reach up to +125% with zer0 (tortoise+followthrough+innervate) and up to +166% with Sal (Tortoise+11/5 Incite+Bus That Can't Slow Down).

Sal is severely underpowered and he has to work around his DPS suckage with being the fastest class in game :) Gearbox-style balance FTW

[Finger]

Originally posted by WaxxFetish:

Oh, I actually love it with zero's Sniper and Sal's Raider mods. You need a low level Tortoise and a mod with shield capacity nerf higher than the capacity of your Tortoise. You get a permanent +50% speed buff and a constant proccing of Fearless or Out Of Bubblegum (assuming that you've specced them in).

Hmm, I might try this with my sniper Zero just for kicks. But just to be clear, essentially this would just make Zero a shield-less speed demon? Sounds like I'd need to be heavily dependent on transfusion grenades and Moxxi weapons just to stay alive.

[DatMageDoe]

Just a notem using the Fabled Tortoise is irrelevant. It can be any shield, such as an old lvl 2 Tediore shield, or an Adaptive (best choice imo).

[WaxxFetish]

Originally posted by Finger:

Originally posted by WaxxFetish:

Oh, I actually love it with zero's Sniper and Sal's Raider mods. You need a low level Tortoise and a mod with shield capacity nerf higher than the capacity of your Tortoise. You get a permanent +50% speed buff and a constant proccing of Fearless or Out Of Bubblegum (assuming that you've specced them in).

Hmm, I might try this with my sniper Zero just for kicks. But just to be clear, essentially this would just make Zero a shield-less speed demon? Sounds like I'd need to be heavily dependent on transfusion grenades and Moxxi weapons just to stay alive.

Well, I really can't play a pure sniper/CA build on OP8 anyway, it's great for bosses, but kudos to you if you can handle normal OP8 gameplay with this. Up to 72 it's really cool with slag transfusions, Chere Amie and Pimpernels (Lyudas are fun but you need a Hoarder zerk to deal with low ammo). It's very fast paced and if you equip a top notch cooldown relic, you should be able to heal a lot using Innervate.

zer0 is not really a shield oriented toon imo, unless you're going with Stalker mods or blockade/grim or survivor/turtle cheese/grim combos, you have nothing to enhance your shields with.