Why do assault rifles suck so much?

[Justin_760]

Am I the only one who notices this? They are obsolete in every case Ive seen so far in my playthroughs. Felt the same way years ago, Im shocked theyve never been buffed.

Pistols almost always have higher damage for similar fire rate, SMG's have same damage with higher fire rate. I havent found a single good assault rifle to use so far, am I doing something wrong? Only ones Ive used are the torgue explosive shots, and even then the slow bullet speed and low clip size makes them a hard sell.

The jacobs line are iffy because 90% ive found have the terrible knub sight that is difficult to do precision aiming with, making them unreliable for medium/long range.

[Stolen]

Originally posted by Justin_760:

Am I the only one who notices this?

Yes you are./s

[CommanderDouchebag]

ARs don't suck, OP. But people do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XucOO1OxZx8

[water]

Originally posted by CommanderDouchebag:

ARs don't suck, OP. But people do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XucOO1OxZx8

No, people refusing to use bad guns doesn't mean they are bad players...

[Tymon]

I honestly don't get the hate that assault rifles get either. Maybe it's my playing style but they always seem really reliable to me. Is it people basically complaining because they are like good 'all around' guns rather than excelling in one field but sucking in others or something?

[trukr]

I don't think they suck so much as they could be a bit better. I like Jakobs for closer head shots, I like Torgue for BeWm, just have to learn how to lead your target with those slow Gyrojets. Granted, if I get my grubby paws on a good Sheriff's Badge I gravitate to pistols in a lot of situations, but ARs are useful if not all BA.

[Driftkel]

In my opinion, it's Jakob ARs that are pure garbage. Pathetic damage, low clip size, low fire rate because of the fact that you have to fire as quick as you can for most Jakob weapons.

[CommanderDouchebag]

Originally posted by Siminator:

In my opinion, it's Jakob ARs that are pure garbage. Pathetic damage, low clip size, low fire rate because of the fact that you have to fire as quick as you can for most Jakob weapons.

Woah. Bekah, Gatling Gun and Hammerbutster would like a word from ya.

[Driftkel]

Originally posted by CommanderDouchebag:

Originally posted by Siminator:

In my opinion, it's Jakob ARs that are pure garbage. Pathetic damage, low clip size, low fire rate because of the fact that you have to fire as quick as you can for most Jakob weapons.

Woah. Bekah, Gatling Gun and Hammerbutster would like a word from ya.

Alright maybe I took it too far ahead there. The Hammerbuster is not a bad Legendary AR.

The Gattling Gun? No thanks. It's even worse when you find one without any scopes/sights.

[HiTmAn]

not all really varuc.hammer buster.seraphim very good on maya.kitten fantastic.heil fantastic..bekah great...

[StreamWhenGuy]

What's the point of this thread exactly? Learn to mod and do w/e you want tweaking those numbers, or just use better weapon that fits your playstyle more. There won't be any updates for this game obviously.
Y'all suck btw

[green]

They "suck" cause there's not one that completly exploits the Bee Shield.

[vindicar]

Well, I'm replaying the game as Axton, and I have yet to find any assault rifle that would make me go "whoah, I'm soooo keeping this one!"
SMGs? Yes. Pistols? Occasionally, yes. Shotguns? Same. Snipers? Damn yes!
But only I only used one AR - torpedo-type. At level 6, I think, and it started to suck rather quickly.

So yes, assault rifles just seem to lack an obvious identifiable niche. For everything they do, there is another gun that does the same plus something else on top of that.

[Draekus]

i tried an all AR Axton awhile back. even with a decent Rifleman Class mod, my only real issue was ammo. 4 weapon slots with the same ammo type is not a good idea. i use AR's, i know what works for me. i know which Manufacturer and which barrels to look for. yup, even Jakob's.
i find E-tech AR's kinda fun. had a Shock Vladof one once, took it to Opportunity for Jack's double. that catwalk above, had 2 Bad Guys i couldn't get a bead on. the thing with the Shock E-tech AR was the shots ricocheted off walls. so i started hitting the ceiling and walked the shots til those 2 got hit. for me, AR's fill that Med. - Long range role and widen the ammo pool.

[I Kinda Fail]

They're more niche than other guns, I've found.

The "fire as fast as you click" ARs are trash, as far as I'm concerned. I can't quite say why, because I love Jakobs revolvers, and love rapid fire Hyperion shotguns, but mashing an assault rifle just doesn't feel good to me; I'm not a fan of anything by Dahl, either, so maybe Dahl ARs are good, but just not for my playstyle.

I've found a handful of ARs that were good for where I was in the game, though. Early on, a... Vladof(?) spinigun with high attack and/or explosive will obliterate the bullymongs and bandits, if there's only a handful, but the slow reload times can be painful. (And yet, later on, many characters get faster reloads, so...)

I've also found fire and electric ARs that were surprisingly high damage, considering they had an elemental chance of like 6%. It was a good "catch all" weapon, because it had high fire rate, dropped shields, and did high-ish damage to enemies without a shield.

I think later in the game, it's highly dependent on your playstyle AND character build. Like a slag/fire AR with a quick reload skill, or an explosive Axton with the 50% more ammo capacity and therefore less reloading, could be pretty decent.

It basically just seems like a lot of ARs are either strong but low speed/ammo, strong and wildly inaccurate, or weak and inaccurate with rapid fire.

[Starbug]

I think the person who started this rumour was the same guy who started the "Axton is the weakest character" meme.