Borderlands 3 might be a failure. Here are stats

[Major Ahole]

Here's the top sellers list for PS4:

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/home/games

It's not even in the top 100 for top games or top digital

If you check Amazon sales:

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames

The ps4 super deluxe version is the 33rd best selling game. The Xbox One version is 60nd. The regular Xbox version is 62nd.

NBA 2k20, a game that has been massively downvoted, is selling better then the PS4 version. It's also being outsold by Links' Awakening, both console versions of Modern Warfare, Sega Genesis Mini, Smash Bros Ultimate, Mario Kart 8, Breath of the wild, Dragon Quest XI, Fifa 20, Minecraft Switch, Pokemon Sword, and Nintendo Switch Console

The Xbox One version is being outsold by Luigis Mansion 3, Pokemon sword and shield double pack, ring adventure, Ni no kuni, Switch Lite, Super Mario Maker 2, Gears 5, wireless controllers, a ps4 slim, A FREAKING OCCULUS QUEST AT $400, a ps4 pro, new super mario bros u deluxe, nba 2k20 for xbox one, rune factory 4 special, just dance 2019, and madden 2020.

The regular ps4 version is 66th, it's selling worse then spyro trilogy, tokyo mirage sessions, super mario party, and pokemon shield.

So in conclusion, Borderlands 3 isn't even a top 100 seller on ps4, and on amazon it's not even a top seller, it's instead being outsold by consoles, vr headsets, controllers, console currency, just dance, fifa, obscure anime games, and old wii u games ported to switch. Where's the big success?

[Draekus]

Origineel geplaatst door SHREDDER:

anyone else find it strange how epic choose to make BL3 timed exculsive for less time than the other games they have got?

it might've been a condition 2K made with Epic.

[SHREDDER]

Origineel geplaatst door tacoim:

Origineel geplaatst door SHREDDER:

anyone else find it strange how epic choose to make BL3 timed exculsive for less time than the other games they have got?

Its probably because randy talked them into it. As dumb as he is he probably did ome thing right and made sure it was 6 months to avoid destroying the chancea the game would have on steam

He is dumber even than my henchmen Hun Bebop and Rocksteady. Even them they are smarter and much stronger than him. Then why Obsidian Remedy and Typhoon studios didnt also do the same for control outter worlds and journey to savage planet? Or Rebelion for Zombie army 4 and we have to wait so long for the steam releases?

[SHREDDER]

Origineel geplaatst door Dr. Dro:

Origineel geplaatst door SHREDDER:

He is dumber even than my henchmen Hun Bebop and Rocksteady. Even them they are smarter and much stronger than him. Then why Obsidian Remedy and Typhoon studios didnt also do the same for control outter worlds and journey to savage planet? Or Rebelion for Zombie army 4 and we have to wait so long for the steam releases?

Because Sweeney paid these guys for a year, not for 6 months.

And why he did that only for bordelans 3 why he didnt pay the others for 6 months too?

[Dragon]

Origineel geplaatst door Killance:

. Took lawsuits and other launchers making games exclusive to make steam wise up.

What are you talking about, Steam hasn't wised up. Other than adding a still not-very-good refund policy because a lawsuit forced them to, they are still operating in the same dubious ways they always have, and still taking a ludicrously high 30% cut per each copy of a game sold.

Steam has had no reason to wise up yet, and still doesn't, as at the moment they are still much huger than EGS, and large publishers like Ubisoft are still too afraid to abandon Steam completely.

But in the coming years as EGS continues to grow, and as all big publishers finally decide to stop giving away 30% of their profits for no good reason by simply never releasing anything on Steam, that is when Steam will have to wise up or else become drastically smaller in size than it is now as its revenues start to take huge hits.

Steam isn't in that place yet, but it's definitely coming.

[Boromir <-------<<<]

Origineel geplaatst door NaliWarcow:

Origineel geplaatst door Boromir <-------<<<:

Steam is basically a sleeping monopoly, it hasn't abused its power though. Epic would gladly replace steam in that regard which is what it is doing by making it so you can only buy certain games from them. I'm just thankful it is a 6 month timed exclusive and not permanent. I just want to play it on my chosen store which is steam. Does steam have any games you can only buy through them?

Plenty actually....

I should have rephrased that, I don't expect Valve or Epic to put the games they made themselves on eachother's store fronts, I meant third party games either being permanent or timed through steam.

As a customer I have no problems with steam, but I can appreciate why developers want to get away from the ocean of crap that gets put on steam and the high cut up front. If Epic can keep their store from becoming bloated that will be a pro for them.

[SHREDDER]

Origineel geplaatst door Dragon:

Origineel geplaatst door Killance:

. Took lawsuits and other launchers making games exclusive to make steam wise up.

What are you talking about, Steam hasn't wised up. Other than adding a still not-very-good refund policy because a lawsuit forced them to, they are still operating in the same dubious ways they always have, and still taking a ludicrously high 30% cut per each copy of a game sold.

Steam has had no reason to wise up yet, and still doesn't, as at the moment they are still much huger than EGS, and large publishers like Ubisoft are still too afraid to abandon Steam completely.

But in the coming years as EGS continues to grow, and as all big publishers finally decide to stop giving away 30% of their profits for no good reason by simply never releasing anything on Steam, that is when Steam will have to wise up or else become drastically smaller in size than it is now as its revenues start to take huge hits.

Steam isn't in that place yet, but it's definitely coming.

Then they must stop releasing them on consoles too since microsoft and sony also take 30%. Could Epic and Steam in the future start paying games companies to become pc exculsive? I can see valve starting buying small companies like Remedy and Gearbox to make their games pc excuslives and steam only in the near future. How possible do you think is for Valve and Epic to do something like that? Why Epic didnt also pay to delay console versions too and they delay only steam release?

[tacoim]

Origineel geplaatst door Dragon:

Origineel geplaatst door Killance:

. Took lawsuits and other launchers making games exclusive to make steam wise up.

What are you talking about, Steam hasn't wised up. Other than adding a still not-very-good refund policy because a lawsuit forced them to, they are still operating in the same dubious ways they always have, and still taking a ludicrously high 30% cut per each copy of a game sold.

Steam has had no reason to wise up yet, and still doesn't, as at the moment they are still much huger than EGS, and large publishers like Ubisoft are still too afraid to abandon Steam completely.

But in the coming years as EGS continues to grow, and as all big publishers finally decide to stop giving away 30% of their profits for no good reason by simply never releasing anything on Steam, that is when Steam will have to wise up or else become drastically smaller in size than it is now as its revenues start to take huge hits.

Steam isn't in that place yet, but it's definitely coming.

no it isnt. EGS needs to make money without fortnite and if fortnite dies, EGS goes with it as they can no longer afford exclusives at that point.

[tacoim]

Origineel geplaatst door Killance:

Origineel geplaatst door Brandon:

Don't bother with him. I bet he'd also support the new Call of Duty exclusive mode to only PS4 if it was on Epic.

Unsubscribe from this topic, let the mouth breathers talk their ♥♥♥♥, and come back when the actual numbers come out.

I guarantee you when the breakdown of sales comes out, you can bet your ass I'll be back and @ing them, laughing at the idiocy they spouted.

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Edit1: also, don't listen to Sean the Brony, average drawing my bro.
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I love the sound of defeat. By all means keep doing it. Just showing you lost a long time ago.

Also want more ammunition? I got tons more things for you to dig up about me that you'll make inaccurate. So please do keep going this is absolutely amazing that I have a fan willing to do full on background checks on me.

waiting for those numbers. wanna show me the pc sales now or ?????????

[Black Hole]

Goodness people grow up, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ video game. 77 pages of whining and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ over a video game.

[Witski]

Origineel geplaatst door Megatron:

Goodness people grow up, it's a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ video game. 77 pages of whining and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ over a video game.

Saying the same thing over and over and over again for every reply/opinion someone made lol

[Boromir <-------<<<]

I say the whine has aged quite nicely, it hasn't corked yet. Let's have some cheese with it, sit back and enjoy.

[Witski]

Origineel geplaatst door Boromir <-------<<<:

I say the whine has aged quite nicely, it hasn't corked yet. Let's have some cheese with it, sit back and enjoy.

Well..you have to proof them you have cheese...no one will listen to you without proof from a reliable source(none of them are reliable if is going against them)

[Killance]

Origineel geplaatst door Boromir <-------<<<:

I say the whine has aged quite nicely, it hasn't corked yet. Let's have some cheese with it, sit back and enjoy.

I've been enjoying it since the whining started on the forums. Everyone who was against epic gave up. Specially since they released their numbers of selling 5 million copies. They haven't done anything to prove a 2k representative wrong so seeing then squirm and moving goal posts is a delight.

Also I gained a stalker over the internet which is just delightful. Wonder how long he'll follow me for?

[tacoim]

you guys done then? cool we win this argument then considering you guys cant produce evidence of pc sales.

[Boromir <-------<<<]

Origineel geplaatst door tacoim:

you guys done then? cool we win this argument then considering you guys cant produce evidence of pc sales.

PC sales would be nice to see, they said 5 million sold and 70% digital right?