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Major Ahole 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 2:31
Borderlands 3 might be a failure. Here are stats
Here's the top sellers list for PS4:

https://store.playstation.com/en-us/home/games

It's not even in the top 100 for top games or top digital

If you check Amazon sales:

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames

The ps4 super deluxe version is the 33rd best selling game. The Xbox One version is 60nd. The regular Xbox version is 62nd.

NBA 2k20, a game that has been massively downvoted, is selling better then the PS4 version. It's also being outsold by Links' Awakening, both console versions of Modern Warfare, Sega Genesis Mini, Smash Bros Ultimate, Mario Kart 8, Breath of the wild, Dragon Quest XI, Fifa 20, Minecraft Switch, Pokemon Sword, and Nintendo Switch Console

The Xbox One version is being outsold by Luigis Mansion 3, Pokemon sword and shield double pack, ring adventure, Ni no kuni, Switch Lite, Super Mario Maker 2, Gears 5, wireless controllers, a ps4 slim, A FREAKING OCCULUS QUEST AT $400, a ps4 pro, new super mario bros u deluxe, nba 2k20 for xbox one, rune factory 4 special, just dance 2019, and madden 2020.

The regular ps4 version is 66th, it's selling worse then spyro trilogy, tokyo mirage sessions, super mario party, and pokemon shield.

So in conclusion, Borderlands 3 isn't even a top 100 seller on ps4, and on amazon it's not even a top seller, it's instead being outsold by consoles, vr headsets, controllers, console currency, just dance, fifa, obscure anime games, and old wii u games ported to switch. Where's the big success?
最后由 Major Ahole 编辑于; 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 5:04
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Brandon 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 5:59 
引用自 Nakos
It doesn't matter how many copies (of BL3) sell.

The game was already financially successful before a single copy was sold.

That's the deal 2K made with Sweeney. Sweeney has guaranteed the sales. Regardless of how many copies do, or do not sell, Sweeney makes up any shortfall.

This was always a win for 2K.

They want it to appear to be selling successfully so they can make noise about it being "a success", but even if it's a flop in terms of sales, 2K still makes money.
I'd love sales data to back that up, a third party to confirm.

Everybody knows BL3 made money, the question is; how much? and why won't they show the sales?

If a singular person has to do the following:

引用自 Nakos
Regardless of how many copies do, or do not sell, Sweeney makes up any shortfall

Then the game didn't sell well.
Viper 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:00 
ANd the current charts for XBox 1 have not even been released yet. It goes up to August at this time.

https://cultureofgaming.com/weekly-xbox-one-sales-chart-week-111317/
Major Ahole 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:02 
引用自 Viper
ANd the current charts for XBox 1 have not even been released yet. It goes up to August at this time.

https://cultureofgaming.com/weekly-xbox-one-sales-chart-week-111317/

So what, we're hoping for EGS and Xbox digital to make up for the lack of sales now?
最后由 Major Ahole 编辑于; 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:02
Maffeketel 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:05 
I doubt whether Xbox sales figures will be any different from the Playstation 4.
They both operate within the same market and sales figures are mostly similar between the two consoles with the exception of exclusives of course.

I think the sales figures of the Xbox version will correlate with the statistics of it's competitor and the game will also show poor sales figures on that platform as well.
最后由 Maffeketel 编辑于; 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:06
Viper 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:07 
引用自 Viper
ANd the current charts for XBox 1 have not even been released yet. It goes up to August at this time.

https://cultureofgaming.com/weekly-xbox-one-sales-chart-week-111317/

So what, we're hoping for EGS and Xbox digital to make up for the lack of sales now?

what lack of sales are you referring to. There is no data on sales available at this time. except this of course. UK sales..Its first.

www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/09/uk_sales_charts_borderlands_3_loots_the_biggest_physical_launch_of_2019

Of course all of you guys will keep hiding your head in the sand and ignoring reality so you can feel like your making a difference with this boycott..but your not in reality.
最后由 Viper 编辑于; 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:08
Major Ahole 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:07 
引用自 Viper

So what, we're hoping for EGS and Xbox digital to make up for the lack of sales now?

what lack of sales are you referring to. There is no data on sales available at this time. except this of course. UK sales..Its first.

www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/09/uk_sales_charts_borderlands_3_loots_the_biggest_physical_launch_of_2019

Of course all of you guys will keep hiding your head in the sand and ignoring reality so you can feel like your making a difference with this boycott..but your not in reality.

You keep linking to things that have zero evidence behind them. My links actually show sales figures, or lack thereof.

And ROFL we are the ones with our heads in the sand huh?
最后由 Major Ahole 编辑于; 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:08
Maffeketel 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:08 
引用自 Viper

So what, we're hoping for EGS and Xbox digital to make up for the lack of sales now?

what lack of sales are you referring to. There is no data on sales available at this time. except this of course. UK sales..Its first.

www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/09/uk_sales_charts_borderlands_3_loots_the_biggest_physical_launch_of_2019

Of course all of you guys will keep hiding your head in the sand and ignoring reality so you can feel like your making a difference with this boycott..but your not in reality.

That's a link to an article based on estimates and assumptions and only includes the physical sales which make up but a fraction of the total sales in the industry today.
The article lacks a concrete figure and is not supported by actual evidence.

Most sales are now digital, through the online storefronts available on each individual platform.
最后由 Maffeketel 编辑于; 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:10
HypnoToad 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:09 
引用自 Viper

what lack of sales are you referring to. There is no data on sales available at this time. except this of course. UK sales..Its first.

www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/09/uk_sales_charts_borderlands_3_loots_the_biggest_physical_launch_of_2019

Of course all of you guys will keep hiding your head in the sand and ignoring reality so you can feel like your making a difference with this boycott..but your not in reality.

You keep linking to things that have zero evidence behind them. My links actually show sales figures, or lack thereof.

And are international.
Viper 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:11 
引用自 Viper

what lack of sales are you referring to. There is no data on sales available at this time. except this of course. UK sales..Its first.

www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/09/uk_sales_charts_borderlands_3_loots_the_biggest_physical_launch_of_2019

Of course all of you guys will keep hiding your head in the sand and ignoring reality so you can feel like your making a difference with this boycott..but your not in reality.

You keep linking to things that have zero evidence behind them. My links actually show sales figures, or lack thereof.

And ROFL we are the ones with our heads in the sand huh?
Now your calling the Ukie UK sales charts liars. AN organization that supports the UK games industry and has for a very long time. Sorry but that as official as it gets. Learn something please.
最后由 Viper 编辑于; 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:11
Nakos 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:13 
引用自 Brandon
引用自 Nakos
Regardless of how many copies do, or do not sell, Sweeney makes up any shortfall

Then the game didn't sell well.

The horizon for the business deal is 6 months.

Arguing over sales figures for the first week or so are (for the most part) irrelevant.

Anything we've seen (so far) from Epic/2K/Randy on how the sales are going are just part of the post-release marketing. It doesn't mean anything. They'd say it if the game was selling well, they'd say it if the game was selling poorly. It's just more marketing.
Major Ahole 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:14 
引用自 Viper

You keep linking to things that have zero evidence behind them. My links actually show sales figures, or lack thereof.

And ROFL we are the ones with our heads in the sand huh?
Now your calling the Ukie UK sales charts liars. AN organization that supports the UK games industry and has for a very long time. Sorry but that as official as it gets. Learn something please.

Even assuming that's true, that was for one weekend.

RIGHT NOW, your game is getting outsold by consoles, VR headsets, controllers, console currency, fifa, just dance, obscure anime games, and old wii u games ported to switch.

All of your defense isn't going to matter if only the fanboys bought it during the first weekend and the game tanks right after.
(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★ 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:15 
There is some holes in this.
Top games dont mean top sold games in the last week which is important.

When you just have 'top games' with no filter it kinda just shows you what is THE most bought games on the console. And seeing how BL3, BL3 Deluxe, and BL3 Super Deluxe hold 6,7, and 8 slots combine all of those and it pushes pass number 1.

I like your overall argument but tighten it up more if you can.
最后由 (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★ 编辑于; 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:16
Brandon 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:16 
引用自 Nakos
引用自 Brandon

Then the game didn't sell well.

The horizon for the business deal is 6 months.

Arguing over sales figures for the first week or so are (for the most part) irrelevant.

Anything we've seen (so far) from Epic/2K/Randy on how the sales are going are just part of the post-release marketing. It doesn't mean anything. They'd say it if the game was selling well, they'd say it if the game was selling poorly. It's just more marketing.

It's completely relevent.

Posters are claiming it's the best sold game. I need proof to accept that statement, and all I get are dumb responses trying to bait people into more flamming.

I can't think of a better sentence for people on these forums trying to instigate conflict as such : garbage humans with a lack of function of the brain.

If you're going to back a statement claiming Borderlands 3 sold well, you need to provide the PROOF that it did, or it's a lie.
(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★ 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:22 
Also looking more into it..... being 37rd best seller on Amazon is pretty big...... as it is not 'recent' sales but overall sales..... meaning in just a few days it the number 37 slot for JUST PS4 and 67th slot for Xbox.... on top of 70th slot for regular edition. 71st slot. 74th slot too......


Wow this is just honestly making it show how successful it was.....


So here is what we got.
On the Playstation store it holds 6,7, AND 8 slot of highest sold games in the pass week.

On amazon it holds 37, 67, 70, 71, and 74 on most sold EVER on amazon.....

These numbers are making it look A LOT better than you made it sound :|

最后由 (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★ 编辑于; 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:25
Major Ahole 2019 年 9 月 18 日 下午 6:27 
Also looking more into it..... being 37rd best seller on Amazon is pretty big...... as it is not 'recent' sales but overall sales..... meaning in just a few days it the number 37 slot for JUST PS4 and 67th slot for Xbox.... on top of 70th slot for regular edition. 71st slot. 74th slot too......


Wow this is just honestly making it show how successful it was.....


So here is what we got.
On the Playstation store it holds 6,7, AND 8 slot of highest sold games in the pass week.

On amazon it holds 37, 67, 70, 71, and 74 on most sold EVER on amazon.....

These numbers are making it look A LOT better than you made it sound :|

LOL no, new games always make at least the top 10. Call of Duty is outselling it and it's not even out :\
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