Complete MOD and dreadful AI!

[Von Adder]

Well i was enjoying playing with the complete MOD but the AI is beyond awful, i would have taken screenies of the vast clumps of troops all identical and all stuck together firing at the air, or the soldiers i have walked right up to (enemy soldiers) and just shot in the face, or the semi instant respawned guards stuck on scenery, or even the super intelligent bandits that can see you in the dark hidden under a log, or whatever, from miles away! But i couldn't be bothered!

I thought the complete MOD improved the AI, granted a lot of bugs have been fixed and it looks beautiful but the enemy are still a bunch of morons!

[Big Black]

The AI in general is terrible in Stalker and most mods. The best effective AI overhaul was ZoA for SoC and Misery2.0 for CoP.

[Web watcher]

dude lol is your game drunk? never had any of the stuff you mentioned happen to me maybe you used so many mods (install then remove and install another) that they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the game some how? my game runs fine with complete it only feels the mod made the game more easy :/

[Eleazaros]

Odd.. I've never seen this stuff. I have seen oddness but that was from AtmosFear3 -- I appeared at Yanov from traveling, 2 zombies come walking out the door past some guys heading in to the bar area... I couldn't draw my weapon there and the "good" NPC's left them alone.

That kind of oddness a few times but not base AI stuff like shooting in the air and what not.

I'd uninstall and reinstall it - just delete the entire contense of the gamedata directory then validate files using Steam. That'll reset it to default settings. (I did this to get rid of Misery fully & cleanly). It will fail like 3 files and set it all back to normal.

As for good mods - I'm using AtmosFear3, Absolute Nature 3.1 & Absolute Structures. Mostly visual effects - atmosfear does tweak other things around for its effects and can cause oddness (the game doesn't seem to recognize NPC's converted to zombies as hostile correctly all the time - so the zombies can be left alone by stalkers while they come after you in non-combat areas). But that's about it for oddness.

[roman]

Well, your first problem is that you installed STALKER Complete.

[cybill shepherd]

what do you recommend then fluffy frank? i have found the ai in complete the same as OP

[JackofAllTradez]

I think the AI or great in complete, they are quite intelligent, I would download the latest version patch, its alot more useful.

[IkkYuSoJuN]

Are you talking about the agroprom research, near the start of the game, where you must get the first set of documents for sidrovich? the army guys there will almost always clump under mole's hiding place IF you allow too many of them to live. this happened to me on both vanilla and complete, sure is a bug, but i think the idea was that you would kill most of the army guys, then only 2 or 3 do this. now i tend to bypass this section by quickly taking out only the 3 or 4 army guys to the left path, running straight up to mole, kill him myself, then bolt right for the ladder on the wall and out of the area to the sewers, taking 1 or 2 stray bullets, then you dont even see this daft AI problem again for quite some time.

[Von Adder]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Sojun:

Are you talking about the agroprom research, near the start of the game, where you must get the first set of documents for sidrovich? the army guys there will almost always clump under mole's hiding place IF you allow too many of them to live. this happened to me on both vanilla and complete, sure is a bug, but i think the idea was that you would kill most of the army guys, then only 2 or 3 do this. now i tend to bypass this section by quickly taking out only the 3 or 4 army guys to the left path, running straight up to mole, kill him myself, then bolt right for the ladder on the wall and out of the area to the sewers, taking 1 or 2 stray bullets, then you dont even see this daft AI problem again for quite some time.

Yep that's where i stopped playing!

Not only were they clumped in a huge bunch, they became completely oblivious to my character when i moved in a crouch! I was literally crouch walking right up to each guard and shooting them in the face, even after standing on several occasions they completely ignored me!

It was bad enough being spotted in the pitch black by bandits who saw me even though i was using the "stealth" crouch position from a mile away only to be completely ignored in broad daylight by the spec ops, tbh i can normally put up with shabby AI but the complete mod makes the game so much better in the atmosphere department that it's a let down when your main protaganists are cretins!

I'll prolly go back at some point, but there are a lot of games in the world!

Edit: Ignore dodgy grammar, typed on phone in even dodgier AI traffic! :p

[IkkYuSoJuN]

haha ok well typed. i would urge you to try again but follow what i said, just rush for mole , kill him jump up the ladders outa the base, having played all of complete more or less, this is the only plain broken section where they all group hug lol, although as you say , on occaision stealth and darkness also doesnt work like it should.. but as a general rule i shoot first , most enemies are too unpredictable(like real life) to risk just biding your time. its curious why the modders didnt notice this or just plain couldnt fix it.. but i know what you mean, just at that point around mole, you can sometimes do an irish dance in their face and they ignore you. .grenade for this group of morons?

[Icemouth]

Complete doesn't "enhance" AI. At all. All it does is make it shinier and easier

[cybill shepherd]

so what is the best mod package for stalker at minute then? because the AI is daft...i would like to play with decent stealth and nice dark night graphics

[Hella Skella]

Strange, doesn't happen with me.

[PROtego]

Thanks for the info...

[Master Zone]

I'm using the Complete Mod and the bandits seem very smart. I was fighting 5 of them, with 2 of them in front of me dodging between trees while firing at me while the other 3 disappeared and never fired at me once until I just dropped dead because they out flanked me and got me from behind.

[Hobano]

thanks