Team Fortress 2
-GoV- Master Aguirre 2017년 4월 14일 오전 9시 06분
Kicking in MVM and why it should be disabled
Since I started playing MVM I was really glad to see all the team work everyone was doing, good players and even when a new one in MVM got in, the team usually teached him quickly what to do and what class and weapon to choose, everything is fine until you see that guy with +500 tours, telling everyone what to do and kicking if you make a single mistake, sure, I get it, we all want our loot at the end of the game, but being so desperate of the probability of getting an australium to the point of kicking for an insignifican't thing? In my opinion kicking should get disabled in MVM, because the most ''experienced" players sometimes abuse of it, and all the hard work you did during that round it's all gone just because "You wasted Uber once" "You didn't exploded the stickies on time once" "You didn't placed the dispenser right once".
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MannsOverMeta 2017년 4월 14일 오전 9시 09분 
Unless you can propose a replacement, you are just asking for MvM to become unplayable due to horrible players, hackers, and verifiers clogging up servers. All so that you can be stuck with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ team of high tour metards that qued up together.
Horrible idea.
-GoV- Master Aguirre 2017년 4월 14일 오전 9시 21분 
MannsOverMeta님이 먼저 게시:
Unless you can propose a replacement, you are just asking for MvM to become unplayable due to horrible players, hackers, and verifiers clogging up servers. All so that you can be stuck with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ team of high tour metards that qued up together.
Horrible idea.
Simple solution: That High tours don't abuse kick
Radioactive Panda 2017년 4월 14일 오전 9시 46분 
Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Harem님이 먼저 게시:
MannsOverMeta님이 먼저 게시:
Unless you can propose a replacement, you are just asking for MvM to become unplayable due to horrible players, hackers, and verifiers clogging up servers. All so that you can be stuck with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ team of high tour metards that qued up together.
Horrible idea.
Simple solution: That High tours don't abuse kick
Simple solution kick all high tours
Thecrackdealer 2017년 4월 14일 오전 9시 56분 
Theres an even simpler solution: get good and then you will avoid the majority of those situations.

But the dude is probably the sort of person who writes the introduction and the conclusion while the rest of the group does the core work and thinks he deserves the same kind of merit.
Dark Frank 2017년 4월 14일 오전 10시 05분 
All people should be kicked for the slightest infractions.

Get your crap together. The rest of us don't have all day to wait while you fumble around with fundamentals. Let me put it this way, you newbie pieces of sh*t. It's your first day with the fire department. You've ridden on the truck. Played with the sirens. Now, you're in front of a burning building. So-f*cking-help me if I have to tell you what happens next or, god forbid, how to unravel a hose, where to plug it in, and which end to point at the flames.

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MannsOverMeta 2017년 4월 14일 오전 10시 35분 
Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Harem님이 먼저 게시:
MannsOverMeta님이 먼저 게시:
Unless you can propose a replacement, you are just asking for MvM to become unplayable due to horrible players, hackers, and verifiers clogging up servers. All so that you can be stuck with a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ team of high tour metards that qued up together.
Horrible idea.
Simple solution: That High tours don't abuse kick
You can't change players.
How about you actually start thinking and realize that your idea would ruin the gamemode.
EyeOculus 2017년 4월 14일 오전 11시 31분 
Then tell me how to kick actual griefers, afks and hacker.
Quenquent the babysitter 2017년 4월 14일 오후 2시 30분 
Oh boy, here we go again. How many thread do we have speaking about removing votekick ? Well too many that's for sure.

And it will go the same way : beginner got kicked too much, ask for votekick to be removed, we explain why it won't work, we ask for a replacement solution, the original poster comes with ideas that don't solve the problem or are even worst than votekick, and the thread dies.

Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Harem님이 먼저 게시:
and all the hard work you did during that round it's all gone just because "You wasted Uber once" "You didn't exploded the stickies on time once" "You didn't placed the dispenser right once".

If you got kicked for such petty things, maybe it's not worth playing with those players in the first place. Just ignore them, only takes note of the actual mistakes you made, learn from them, and move on.
TNT 2017년 4월 14일 오후 7시 04분 
Vote-kicking should be removed. Instead, the interface that today initiates a vote should send a notification to Francis that allows him to pick one of the following options: Kick target, Kick initiator, Kick both, Kick neither.

"Kick neither" is there for show.

Honestly, so are "Kick target" and "Kick initiator".
Full_Metal_Meme 2017년 4월 14일 오후 9시 36분 
This thread again?


Jeez, people need to realize that there will always be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, votekick or not.
Inner Sight 2017년 4월 14일 오후 10시 03분 
Mentioned this in other threads that popped up for this but for about 2 months mvM was unable to votekick. Anytime you tried to initiate one it'd just tell you that you had to wait a long time before you could start a vote ("5,500 more seconds" if I remember right).

The game mode became completely unplayable.
  • Players that have never touched MvM before dove into advanced and expert expecting to be carried. But they didn't get carried because there were more newbies in over their head than there were real players playing MvM and nothing could weed them out.

  • Trolls would join MvM just to take up a slot and aggravate the teams knowing they were safe from reprocussion. With Pyro they could airblast a bomb all the way to the hatch. With engineer they could sentry buster their own teammates.

  • Many players went afk and just never came back. Some even popped into the game already afk for some reason. They'd sit in the spawn for an hour or more. We couldn't do anything about it.

There are downsides for both ways. But only one leaves the game at least playable. Pubbing became impossible during those two months. You either played with friends or you didn't get past wave 1.

Just to clarify I don't mean just "most games."

You'll run into that type of person. It's just gonn ahappen. Best thing you can do is shrug it off and join another room. Or, if have friends, you can play with them.
Airport Pimp Rolo 2017년 4월 15일 오전 12시 31분 
I run into those type of guys an more in overwatch PVE. Their verson of dungeons or MvM is equally worse an in most cases worse of the worse. MAybe RPG games, MMOS, MVM etc ate too Hard for most guys to learn an play okay properly? :trolol:


radical 2017년 4월 15일 오후 4시 35분 
Dark Frank님이 먼저 게시:
All people should be kicked for the slightest infractions.

Get your crap together. The rest of us don't have all day to wait while you fumble around with fundamentals. Let me put it this way, you newbie pieces of sh*t. It's your first day with the fire department. You've ridden on the truck. Played with the sirens. Now, you're in front of a burning building. So-f*cking-help me if I have to tell you what happens next or, god forbid, how to unravel a hose, where to plug it in, and which end to point at the flames.
This is joke, yes?
MannsOverMeta 2017년 4월 15일 오후 4시 47분 
Radicaltastic님이 먼저 게시:
Dark Frank님이 먼저 게시:
All people should be kicked for the slightest infractions.

Get your crap together. The rest of us don't have all day to wait while you fumble around with fundamentals. Let me put it this way, you newbie pieces of sh*t. It's your first day with the fire department. You've ridden on the truck. Played with the sirens. Now, you're in front of a burning building. So-f*cking-help me if I have to tell you what happens next or, god forbid, how to unravel a hose, where to plug it in, and which end to point at the flames.
This is joke, yes?
um
I dunno.
DiddlyAhhBlud205 2017년 4월 15일 오후 8시 53분 
Kicking SHOULD be allowed because it's usually the only way to get the game going by removing a player.
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