WE DO NOT SUPPORT CENSORSHIP!!!

[DooHeyKey]

Don't buy this, send a clear message!!!!!

[Kaldaien]

Yeah, but in highly stylized movies like Sin City, Scanner Darkly or even 300, they are pretty consistent with the art style throughout.

The particle effects, levitating sacrifice, etc. are in fact, classic elements you will see within the first 15 seconds of starting Tales of Phantasia :P There is precedent for the way the censored scene appears, that's been a common theme for > 20 years now and does not look at all out of place to me.

That said, the whole werewolf theme does lend some credibility to the red/black contrasting art style here. If that effect is used tactfully throughout the rest of the game, then both scenes are perfectly agreeable to me.

[Mei]

As someone who owns the Japanese version and will also be buying the English release, this so-called "censorship" doesn't alter nor change the already definitive outcome of the scene in question. Arthur still kills the boy, albeit in a slightly more mystical, unpictorial manner. This slight alteration of source material by no means should evoke such a meaningless outcry of "Do not buy this game because censorship!" It most certainly could have been worse.

Your illogical idea of not buying the game would only lead to the disenfranchisement of people wanting to buy future titles.

The western release of Berseria is already at the point of no return. The likelyhood of them swapping the existing scene with the original is miniscule. What you should be doing is simply stating your dislike of the change in hopes that future releases are kept authentic and on par with the original.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Messaggio originale di Strawberry:

As someone who owns the Japanese version and will also be buying the English release, this so-called "censorship" doesn't alter nor change the already definitive outcome of the scene in question. Arthur still kills the boy, albeit in a slightly more cinematic, unpictorial manner. This slight alteration of source material by no means should evoke such a meaningless outcry of "Do not buy this game because censorship!" It most certainly could have been worse.

Your illogical idea of not buying the game would only lead to the disenfranchisement of people wanting to buy future titles.

The western release of Berseria is already at the point of no return. The likelyhood of them swapping the existing scene with the original is miniscule. What you should be doing is stating your dislike of the change in hopes that future releases are kept authentic on par with the original.

Yep, in addition to preparing ways to patch/mod the scene, if you desire the original scene, of course.

[Twilight StarOcean]

i see people with brains instead of whiney brats it's christmas miracle! lol

[Mei]

Messaggio originale di Quint the House Gecko:

Yep, in addition to preparing ways to patch/mod the scene, if you desire the original scene, of course.

That shouldn't need to be an answer. I understand their reasoning, but disagree with the change. The scene should have remained true to its source.

With that said, some people are just overreacting. I'm at a loss of words when I see these childish acts.

[Scrappi]

Messaggio originale di Strawberry:

As someone who owns the Japanese version and will also be buying the English release, this so-called "censorship" doesn't alter nor change the already definitive outcome of the scene in question. Arthur still kills the boy, albeit in a slightly more mystical, unpictorial manner. This slight alteration of source material by no means should evoke such a meaningless outcry of "Do not buy this game because censorship!" It most certainly could have been worse.

Your illogical idea of not buying the game would only lead to the disenfranchisement of people wanting to buy future titles.

The western release of Berseria is already at the point of no return. The likelyhood of them swapping the existing scene with the original is miniscule. What you should be doing is simply stating your dislike of the change in hopes that future releases are kept authentic and on par with the original.

This may be the case, however there’s still a chance for a possible uncensor patch/DLC in the future. Bandai Namco should at least give a straight answer about this so we can all move on.

I agree that it could have been worse and that a boycott may lead to the disenfranchisement of the tales series on PC (which scares me cause I want them ALL on PC) but let’s not forget that Bandai Namco is still running a business here and money talks. How they interpret and react to the effects is up to them.

So by all means, people should let them know that they’re upset about the censorship but let’s not forget the source of this sht stain… the people behind the PEGI rating system.

I’ll still buy the game if nothing else has been changed. I personally prefer the original scene because it had more OOMPTH behind it. So naturally, I hope there will be DLC for this in the future.

[Mei]

Messaggio originale di Dave:

This may be the case, however there’s still a chance for a possible uncensor patch/DLC in the future. Bandai Namco should at least give a straight answer about this so we can all move on.

In regards to post launch downloadable content, I'm not sure how this is doable without going behind the ESRB, PEGI, and the other rating systems. Then again, I'm fairly ignorant on the subject. DLC might receive it's own independent rating, I don't know. It has potential, but unlikely to happen. We're more likely to see a third party modification.

Messaggio originale di Dave:

So by all means, people should let them know that they’re upset about the censorship...

Agreed. Boycotting would be more damaging than it would be beneficial. There are other alternatives.

[PatrickDJ]

soo you say dont buy a game that is cencored soo that the Western released will stop doing so?? Well..... THATS NEVER GONNE HAPPEN!

[Faint]

you have way to much time on your hands.... but since I'm posting I would like to point out the obvious majority rules and the rest of you drool argument. Found in article 9 of the PC political action lawsuit against butthurts who love telling people why they shouldn't do what they want but rather listen to the small group of unsatisfied shut-ins who always pop up in just about EVERY FREAKING JRPG thread weeks before release with the same trolling.... the people have spoken, feel free to continue yelling at the imaginary wall

[Zeikar]

Messaggio originale di lunarvida:

you have way to much time on your hands.... but since I'm posting I would like to point out the obvious majority rules and the rest of you drool argument. Found in article 9 of the PC political action lawsuit against butthurts who love telling people why they shouldn't do what they want but rather listen to the small group of unsatisfied shut-ins who always pop up in just about EVERY FREAKING JRPG thread weeks before release with the same trolling.... the people have spoken, feel free to continue yelling at the imaginary wall :FFXIII2bomb::happy_creep:

Still don't know who the majority is and minority is, it seems 50/50. The changed scene isn't bad on its own and had that been the original scene in the first place then it works, here's my problem though, it's not the original scene and it is done for stupid unnecessary censorship.

[Kaldaien]

I am both, the majority and the minority. The alpha and omega. I will continue yelling at both sides of that imaginary wall because I am bored--which reminds me--get off my lawn, children!

[Zeikar]

Messaggio originale di Kaldaien:

I am both, the majority and the minority. The alpha and omega. I will continue yelling at both sides of that imaginary wall because I am bored--which reminds me--get off my lawn, children!

Whippersnappers

[Faint]

Messaggio originale di Zeikar:

Messaggio originale di lunarvida:

you have way to much time on your hands.... but since I'm posting I would like to point out the obvious majority rules and the rest of you drool argument. Found in article 9 of the PC political action lawsuit against butthurts who love telling people why they shouldn't do what they want but rather listen to the small group of unsatisfied shut-ins who always pop up in just about EVERY FREAKING JRPG thread weeks before release with the same trolling.... the people have spoken, feel free to continue yelling at the imaginary wall

Still don't know who the majority is and minority is, it seems 50/50. The changed scene isn't bad on its own and had that been the original scene in the first place then it works, here's my problem though, it's not the original scene and it is done for stupid unnecessary censorship.

Since you asked twice...

i agree it's stupid, but I'm not going to miss out on the game because of the few seconds they needed fixed to change the rating of the game so the majority of gamers could play it. The ratings board has always been stupid, not buying this game does nothing to change that because this game isn't what censored it, it's the system itself. The majority I spoke of are the countless people who already bought the game despite this fix.

Did the battle system change? no
Did the story change? no
Did the art style change? no

it's a dumb thing to ask people to do... if anyone really wanted to change this system they would join a group like the National Coalition Against Censorship and go after CERO directly. This game company has nothing to do with this except the fact they followed regulations. Anyone dumb enough to think that is a troll yelling at an imaginary wall.... if you’re going to troll a forum do yourself a favor and fact check first, these threads are all stupid because people don't understand that simple fact. Go after CERO, not the people making the game that got censored... it amounts to kicking a wounded animal, they already got censored unwillingly and now they lose profit on a game that is still AAA class.


P.S. - CERO is also responsible for the Far Cry Primal censorship... a game with so much blood that censoring anything would make no sense and they still got forced to change something. This entire conversation is stupid until people actual care to learn who the real villain is.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

Messaggio originale di Zeikar:

Messaggio originale di lunarvida:

you have way to much time on your hands.... but since I'm posting I would like to point out the obvious majority rules and the rest of you drool argument. Found in article 9 of the PC political action lawsuit against butthurts who love telling people why they shouldn't do what they want but rather listen to the small group of unsatisfied shut-ins who always pop up in just about EVERY FREAKING JRPG thread weeks before release with the same trolling.... the people have spoken, feel free to continue yelling at the imaginary wall :FFXIII2bomb::happy_creep:

Still don't know who the majority is and minority is, it seems 50/50. The changed scene isn't bad on its own and had that been the original scene in the first place then it works, here's my problem though, it's not the original scene and it is done for stupid unnecessary censorship.

If you're trying to get a feel for the political landscape, do also keep in mind that there are various people -- especially those with less strong opinions, but who have them nevertheless -- who don't speak up much.

[Zeikar]

Messaggio originale di Quint the House Gecko:

If you're trying to get a feel for the political landscape, do also keep in mind that there are various people -- especially those with less strong opinions, but who have them nevertheless -- who don't speak up much.

I could give an eff about the political landscape, all I'm saying is the scene on its own isn't bad and had it been the original scene that's fine, but the fact is, it was created for the sole purpose of censorship, which I do not like, but it won't affect my decision to buy the game or not, in fact I'll probably have it wishlisted for a few years. Certainly by that time we will know if modders do anything or Bamco does anything in regards to that scene.