Warning for those who pirate, then buy the game (try before buy)

[Ambidex]

If you do decide to buy the game, be advised that your save will not be compatible with the legit version if you activated the DLC. And if you were to buy all of the DLC, it would cost a staggering $88 dollars.

As long as you don't activate any DLC you'll be fine.

Piracy can't be stopped, but if you do decide to buy the game (please do, amazing game) just be ready to accept you may have to start over.

[Draconic Creature]

For anyone who's about to whine and accuse of encouraging piracy, pirates are gonna pirate and not everyone will feel the demo that's present is enough of a test to justify a purchase.

Those people will use pirated versions as an extended demo, if they don't buy the game from that then they weren't going to buy the game in the first place and if they do buy the game then that's a gained sale that might've otherwise not happened.

Edit: Here's the three major types of pirates.

1:The people who pirate because they simply can't afford the game otherwise or it is not avalible to them.

2:The people who pirate because they have little money and are unsure if they want to spend the money on the game while also finding the two-hour test period and the demo is just not enough to get a good impression.

3:The pirates who pirate because they can, a vast majority of which wouldn't buy the game anyways.

[Kirkyeehee]

I'll say this, not to encourage piracy, but just to point it out. Typically you can use the save file from a pirated version of the game if you know where to put the save file, and know how to use hex editors to change hex values. I actually did this with a few games I've pirated then ended up buying.

You just need to know where to look and what to do.

Also, for the price of the DLC, I think that's highway robbery and wouldn't pay for it to begin with. A bunch of cosmetic DLC costing as much as the game is over kill, but sadly it's not as bad as some of the Tales games on the PS3. One of those had around $125 in DLC...

I've heard there are ways around the DLC as well, never really looked into it though as I just don't have an interest in different outfits. I typically keep the default clothes on in these games on a first play through so in game cut scenes match up with the animated ones properly.

[Antitype]

Originally posted by Draconic Creature:

For anyone who's about to whine and accuse of encouraging piracy, pirates are gonna pirate and not everyone will feel the demo that's present is enough of a test to justify a purchase.

Those people will use pirated versions as an extended demo, if they don't buy the game from that then they weren't going to buy the game in the first place and if they do buy the game then that's a gained sale that might've otherwise not happened.

Edit: Here's the three major types of pirates.

1:The people who pirate because they simply can't afford the game otherwise or it is not avalible to them.

2:The people who pirate because they have little money and are unsure if they want to spend the money on the game while also finding the two-hour test period and the demo is just not enough to get a good impression.

3:The pirates who pirate because they can, a vast majority of which wouldn't buy the game anyways.

You forgot 4: The pirates who pirate because they can, totally have the money to afford buying the game and would buy it were it the only option.

I wouldn't even put 2 and 3 as a majority group, 1 and 4 is likely much larger.

[Fel]

The people that really couldn't afford the game, it used to be a somewhat valid reason, but now most of that group becomes "people that have very little money, but use that as an excuse to not wait for a massive 70-80% sale a few years later"

I do agree that there are people that can't legally buy the game (it used to be a big thing with games for windows live for example), so for them it's a non-issue as they will be regarded as outlaws either way, so why pay for the priviledge.

Sadly though, even among the people that claim to do it to "test" the game, the vast majority are going to point out any excuse to actually play until they are satisfied.

Steam's sales happen frequently, and it's quite often that you see 40% off and above even less than a year after the release, and usually the game is in a better state than at launch because patches have been issued since release too.

Most of the pirates that still want to claim to have a good consience will buy the game when it's inevitably on sale and say "see, I paid for it in the end", paying a fraction of the price and still not having to wait.


Oh well, in any case, pirates will pirate, and it's actually a good thing to have a post like this to remind about save compatibility (not just for the pirates, it's also valid if you want to give your save to someone).

[Antitype]

Yeah, with regional pricing and deep sales, "I'm too poor" is sounding more and more like a poor excuse.

[The Tempted Man]

This is a common myth. I once downloaded a save which utilized summer dlc, which I don't have. I managed to run it without any difficulty.

[Antitype]

Originally posted by ϟMangekyō Sharinganϟ:

This is a common myth. I once downloaded a save which utilized summer dlc, which I don't have. I managed to run it without any difficulty.

They probably weren't wearing them. It's probably just a case of not being able to load character models with models that you don't have in your game and them not having implemented a failsafe that would switch to default costumes.

[Fel]

That's just because you went strait to the NG+ with it, and you probably didn't choose to retain the cosmetic items (which means that it wiped the items from the inventory without trying to load them).
Well, that or that save never actually opened the costume's package.

There are enough repports of people refunding a DLC and not being able to open their save as a result to corroborate this thread too.

[Raggle Fraggles]

Originally posted by kirkyeehee:

Also, for the price of the DLC, I think that's highway robbery and wouldn't pay for it to begin with. A bunch of cosmetic DLC costing as much as the game is over kill, but sadly it's not as bad as some of the Tales games on the PS3. One of those had around $125 in DLC...

Nothting will beat the LITERALLY thousands of bucks needed for all of Dead or Alive 5's cosmetic DLC.

[dudex]

couldnt u just fix it thru cheat engine? i only used it to unlock chaos difficulty but i saw some outfit options there.

[Covalent]

Do they have intention to buy game at the first place? Pirates are gonna be pirate whatever the excuse. I saw legit example in this forum, GTX1080 and 1070, but still pirate this game. All lame excuse are only to justify their annoying behaviour.

[Hakuso]

Originally posted by Antitype:

You forgot 4: The pirates who pirate because they can, totally have the money to afford buying the game and would buy it were it the only option.

Ah, the unicorn that scamware peddlers love to point to but has never been proven to actually exist?

Originally posted by Reason:

Do they have intention to buy game at the first place? Pirates are gonna be pirate whatever the excuse. I saw legit example in this forum, GTX1080 and 1070, but still pirate this game. All lame excuse are only to justify their annoying behaviour.

Maybe they figure that if they have to crack a game they bought to get rid of the scamware they may as well just pick it up cracked and free? Seems like a reasonable position to have. Me, I don't pirate, I complain about the excessive copy protection because I *WANT* to buy these games. I can definitely see how DRM drives people to it though, especially if they don't own as many games as I do to take my mind off the anti-consumer behaviors of some publishers.

I'm category 4, the real category 4, I won't buy the crapware until it's patched out but the fact that I have computers ranging from $2400 to nearly $5000 makes it pretty certain that I can afford them. The only reason I haven't cleaned out my entire wish list is because I have such a massive backlog of games I haven't finished between Steam, GOG, Humble, Google Play, PSN, and the Nintendo eShop that I could play for the rest of my natural life and die of old age before finishing them all. I have, to avoid making matters much worse, limited myself to $100 per month across every platform. If there's a new DS game I have less to spend on Steam, and if there's a game coming to GOG everything else falls below the ability to buy a DRM-Free copy of a game.

[The Tempted Man]

Another thing that most people fail to see if what happens if steam bankrupts. You will lose all your cash you payed for games, you will lose your games, cuz you didn't buy the game, only the license for that particular game, and without steam, you cannot run it, ion top of that, no one physically owes you anything.

Piracy wins in long term investment.

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

Game = Yes
Steam DRM = Yes
Continue of Support of Developer/Publisher = Yes
Denuvo = Pirate
No Removal of DENUVO = Pirate
Continue of Support of Developer/Publisher = No

Simple

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by Reason:

Do they have intention to buy game at the first place? Pirates are gonna be pirate whatever the excuse. I saw legit example in this forum, GTX1080 and 1070, but still pirate this game. All lame excuse are only to justify their annoying behaviour.

I know a few pirates who legitimately try before they buy, it sort of rubs me the wrong way, but they do the honorable thing and stop playing if they don't like it or buy it if they do.

I'm not one to judge, but I will refuse you service if you come into one of my mod threads with a pirated copy looking for help. If you then turn into a pompus windbag after being told my licensing terms, that's when I judge :)

CPY is hilarious for including all DLC like that though. It definitely takes almost all credibility away from anyone who claims they're trying before they buy. As does their reaction when they find out my mod limits them to 45 FPS. You're trying the damn game, don't complain when it's not feature-complete -- morally questionable Shareware shouldn't just give you everything.