Tales of Berseria

Tales of Berseria

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Nero Romulus 2017 年 2 月 1 日 上午 7:28
A fix for censorship
What's stopping the devs from giving us the uncensored version as a optional free DLC download?
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Bootydoo 2017 年 2 月 14 日 下午 6:26 
You people are hilarious.
Razzlero 2017 年 2 月 15 日 下午 1:05 
引用自 Krion
引用自 Kougeru

For me, the problem is that it's inconsistent with the awesome anime version. Anime is fixing most of the story issues with Zestiria and seems to be the new canon. The edited scene ruins that all for "rating" purposes.
Actually, the game doesn't agree with itself either.

http://i.imgur.com/2cL67ik.png

Which is it, then?
Not just that, straight after the censored scene there is an animated cut scene where laphicet has a small narrow wound in his chest which in no way matches the wounds of the magic attack.
Also in the edited cut scene he is lifted to the centre of the pit, but when he falls he's suddenly at the edge where velvet catches him.
It's really inconsistent.
Razzlero 2017 年 2 月 15 日 下午 1:10 
引用自 Inférnum~
引用自 Krion
The game IS supposed to be edgy and dark, though. The problem isn't the scene, is the practice of censorship itself.

I don't even know how one can defend the practice of changing the original author vision for the sake of sales or something worse like "I can't agree with this". Yeah, this time what was changed wasn't enough to stop me to buy the game, but we HAVE to make a fuss and complain about it, until publishers stop messing with games because "we can".

The THING is, you're blaming the wrong people. You can't blame the publishers because countries would have rated it higher than they wanted to. It's not THEIR fault every country abides to different ratings. The ratings in japan are different than the EU or the US.

People are hating on the devs and publishers, but if they did not censor it, it would've gotten a higher rating, which in turn would compromise sales in a lot of ways. There would be no marketing ,there would be no specific release in certain countries or limited release.

If you want to make a fuss, blame the rating people, NOT the developers or publishers because they're trying to abide by rules set by others. It's not like they thought ''hey let's censor it for the west.''
The heaviest marketed games I see are usually 18+ games (E.g. C.O.D, Assassin's Creed).
They are exaggerating the effects of having a PEGI 18 game. the equivalent of 18 rating has bad effects in other places such as ESRB's AO rating, but a PEGI 18 rating isn't really that big of a deal.
Shanto 2017 年 2 月 15 日 下午 2:04 
Refunded the game because of the censorship.

"The censorship took away a lot of potential emotion in a pivotal scene of the game."

The English release of Bandai Namco's Tales Of Berseria has a translation issue in one of the story recap journals. The in-game journal accurately describes the Japanese sword stabbing scene, despite this being changed in English versions

If you're going to censor something, at least put in the extra effort to make it consistent. It helps to at least provide a consistent story. The fact that they only changed one either shows that they are just lazy or flat out just didn't care.
fender178 2017 年 2 月 15 日 下午 2:26 
There are other games out there where the developer had to turn down the violence or they would have received an AO (Adults only) Rating by the ESRB. Even Steam has rules about games being AO rated. Steam would just refuse to sell the game which could lead to loss of sales. To me the censorship thing that they did didn't effect the game for me in any way shape or form. But I get both sides though. I don't get how would showing how laphicet was killed would have changed the rating that much unless there is alot more too it than that. Plus this game is a T rated game as far as the ESRB goes. How much of a rating change would they have gotten if they did not censor it. To me it wouldn't have been much higher than an M rated game.
Kaldaien 2017 年 2 月 15 日 下午 3:14 
More important things are stopping them, for sure.
Play Metaphor 2017 年 2 月 15 日 下午 3:47 
引用自 Krion
引用自 Inférnum~

I feel the exact same way. The entire scene was revolved about a magical ritual, so it fit the nature of the scene much better than actual swords just for the sake of being edgy and dark.
The game IS supposed to be edgy and dark, though. The problem isn't the scene, is the practice of censorship itself.

I don't even know how one can defend the practice of changing the original author vision for the sake of sales or something worse like "I can't agree with this". Yeah, this time what was changed wasn't enough to stop me to buy the game, but we HAVE to make a fuss and complain about it, until publishers stop messing with games because "we can".

Blame the authority that decides what's acceptable and what isn't.

And speaking of censorship, take a good look at Velvet's profile background picture that you can buy on Steam. Valve isn't a saint. They are protecting the masses from tainting their eyes with the figure of the FRICKING MAIN CHARACTER!

Gee thanks Volvo!
最后由 Play Metaphor 编辑于; 2017 年 2 月 15 日 下午 3:47
Sniper Bear 2017 年 2 月 15 日 下午 6:51 
the reason Censorship happens is not simpily to avoid people getting butt hurt, but its more because different cultures have different veiw points on what is acceptable and what isn't. for example, in Japan, Violent games sometimes get gutted much like how in the US games may get scenes with minors in.... very lewd..... situations..... altered or removed. in the US we got Mortal Kombat X with so many goretastic fatalitys, while Japan, never offically did(although they are allowed to import it, they can not buy it anywhere in Japan).

the US is more OK with Violence, but Sexual content is heavily viewed as wrong(ever see an NC-17 movies play in any movie theaters? and remember the X-box title Guy game? that was removed from game stores because one of the girls featured in the game was 17 at the time).
in Japan, Violence is frowned on(there is a reason for it too) in Video games, but having characters under 18 in lewd poses or such is more accepted(although with limits).

sure you can argue that the artists should have their original works respected, but you can't expect everyone to view it the same way. some may call a game like Gal-gun Double Peace a great rail shooter, but others will view it simpily as a game for perverts. and while some may say, well that's who they should aim it at then, the fact is, that may mean they dont make enough to cover the cost of the game. you look at it from a business perspective, and you can see some of the reasons for it.
Magilou Mayvin 2019 年 2 月 16 日 下午 7:55 
I'm so glad I have this game on the PS3 with the fan translation, so I don't have to deal with all the censorship ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
and yes I bought it from the JP store at ¥2000 on sale and own it on steam too, just for support.
Kaldaien 2019 年 2 月 16 日 下午 10:44 
引用自 Kurumi Tokisaki
I'm so glad I have this game on the PS3 with the fan translation, so I don't have to deal with all the censorship ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
and yes I bought it from the JP store at ¥2000 on sale and own it on steam too, just for support.
Instead you have to look at a 720p image that makes you want to rub sand paper on your eyes.
Mr Moopsy 2019 年 2 月 17 日 上午 2:37 
you guys actually bring back a 2 year old thread....
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