are rifle grenades useless?

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

there is no way to directly aim them, all you can do is shoot them upwards and scale the distance. thats it.
sincew you can never see what you're aiming at its very hard to kill or even supress anyone with it.
its like the japanese knee mortar but it can only do the secondary way of fire and you cant even see where it will go.
i rarely seen anyone get a kill with this or die to it.

so is there a point?

[Panzer]

There is a point. If you know how to use them right you can literally get frags like no tomorrow. I've been kicked from seven servers for using them though. The new idiot players think it's hacking so that's amazing. You can fire it from the hip too, just line it up or guess. That's about it.

If you shoot them upwards then it's still good, if you know how to use them. You can spawn camp the enemy with them, shoot it into windows, blow up helis flying low, all sorts of ♥♥♥♥.

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

well please tell me how to use them because so far i couldnt get a single kill with them

[TasteDasRainbow]

A key way to consistently hit enemies with indirect fire (i.e. rifle mortar), is to have specific 'zeroed' locations for fire. To do this, find a particular location that you can easily and repeatedly go to, that has certain spots within 260m where enemies consistently pass through. It helps a lot to be able to do this from directly next to an ammo dump, allowing you to pump out rounds as fast as they refill.

Especially when you have scout recon available, you can end up with a lot of valid targets, usually more than any other role would be able to engage, and you can continue to rain down mortars on the enemy. It especially helps to understand the particular map so you can know the general player flow, allowing you to focus where enemies will group and reinforce from.

[μλψ🦌DEERLEWANGER🦌]

You can hip-fire them actually. Also you can change zeroing to 150-200m and it basically becomes a hip-firing m79

[Me suckie-suckie]

I had 20plus kills with the GL on maps like DMZ, firebase georgina and other maps where you attack/ defend single objectives at a time. Best used with a commander that frequently uses the recon. I just estimate the range using the graph distance on the map or using the spot enemy button.

[U.t.e.k]

Originally posted by Mλ₲🍌Bad Dawg🍌:

Tou can hip-fire them actually. Also you can change zeroing to 150-200m and it basically becomes a hip-firing m79

This is correct.

https://youtu.be/5z6Fl-JHgPA

[PFC Demigo [29th ID]]

Rifle Grenade are never useless. They just take very high skill level to use and they are really really deadly when people camp next to an Ammo Box and start shelling areas marked by your Team. They are as deadly as people using the Thumpers.

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

oh wow, frickin WOW.
now im sold.
many thanks for showing this video, there is everything i wanted to know.

the tips to use indirect fire are pretty nice too but to me its never fun to randomly shoot at enemies i cant see

[Chancelier Allemand]

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

oh wow, frickin WOW.
now im sold.
many thanks for showing this video, there is everything i wanted to know.

the tips to use indirect fire are pretty nice too but to me its never fun to randomly shoot at enemies i cant see

You never played commander :)

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

Originally posted by ImmédiamalCoccinero:

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

oh wow, frickin WOW.
now im sold.
many thanks for showing this video, there is everything i wanted to know.

the tips to use indirect fire are pretty nice too but to me its never fun to randomly shoot at enemies i cant see

You never played commander :)

A. commander is really exciting when you have competent radiomen by your side, you can go straight to the front line, mark targets for yourself and call artillery based off what you see with your own eyes.

B. even if you are stuck with the base radio, you can still go out and shoot people after your fire support go on cooldown

[Chancelier Allemand]

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

Originally posted by ImmédiamalCoccinero:

You never played commander :)

A. commander is really exciting when you have competent radiomen by your side, you can go straight to the front line, mark targets for yourself and call artillery based off what you see with your own eyes.

My intention was just to tell you that it can be really cool to kill people you don't see, such as playing commander


"B. even if you are stuck with the base radio, you can still go out and shoot people after your fire support go on cooldown"
Even if you are stuck with the grenade launcher, well you are not stuck with the grenade launcher and can swap to rifle to shoot at targets

[Gully B.]

I use the gernade rifle to take out snipers that sit at the edge of the map. I mark them with a sqaud move martker and from there it will tell you thee exact range. try it on the shooting range

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

Originally posted by Gully B.:

I use the gernade rifle to take out snipers that sit at the edge of the map. I mark them with a sqaud move martker and from there it will tell you thee exact range. try it on the shooting range

another good advice, thanks again

[oliwier.guliwer PL]

i shot down a heli with the VC rifle grenade.

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

gotta have to revive the thread, rifle grenades are still bloody useless, not being able to aim them is a deal breaker because at the default range they barely travel 10 meters before falling and exploding.

you need to change the range of every single rifle grenade to max (250) for them to travel and meaningful distanance before dropping down and exploding. and even after you did that its still impossible to aim them because there is absolutly no way to know where its going to land.

and considering reloading every grenade is already painstacking, i'd say the bloody thing is usless in defense, and you are way better off picking the land mines.

for offence, its a bit stronger, but considering that you lose your SMG for it, - which is curical for attacking. i doubt its wotrh picking it up over the PPSH