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Sorin Jan 13, 2018 @ 3:29am
Who exactly is Kiryuu Moeka?
The reveal later on suggests she is an agoraphobe who was recruited by FB because of her 'vulnerabilities'; however, it is never elaborated upon how she obtained her sneaking suit and her combat prowess.

A 'normal' person just doesn't fight like that. Is she actually higher up in Sern's hierarchy than FB suggests?
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DPM JaMaN Jan 13, 2018 @ 3:35am 
No, she's not. There's that thing called training, you know. And there's also the thing called equipment. SWAT fighters weren't born with their guns and skills, they acquired them) Read the S;G wiki if you want more info on characters.
Sorin Jan 13, 2018 @ 3:48am 
Guess I should read wiki before posting
Sorin Jan 14, 2018 @ 4:27am 
According to the wiki, it mentions nothing about her 'training'.
Actually it answers none of the questions.
So another plot hole?
Wyrtt Jan 14, 2018 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by Sorin Markov:
According to the wiki, it mentions nothing about her 'training'.
Actually it answers none of the questions.
So another plot hole?
Its quite clearly stated by her that She followed FB orders,
How do yo uthink She can act together with group of armed people as part of the unit? She all undergone training in one of the SERN cells,

They are basicly sleeper terrorist.
DPM JaMaN Jan 14, 2018 @ 7:37am 
It's just, you're asking questions unrelevant to the plot. Like asking about stormtroopers from the original star wars. There were no mentions about them being trained and equipped with blasters, because it's not important to the plot about the force and jedi. And that's not a plot hole by any means.

Just give up on Steins;Gate if you somehow found another plot hole in it. It's a very deep novel, where every major question has its answer and everything has a meaning.
Sorin Jan 14, 2018 @ 3:12pm 
That's what I mean, I thought she was a sleeper when 'it' happened. But afterwards, the rest of the episodes just provides evidence to the contrary.
DPM JaMaN Jan 14, 2018 @ 3:22pm 
Don't forget the plot always jumps from one world line to another. In some world lines even Okabe himself is actually evil.

So everything is possible, but in the original VN and anime adaptation Moeka is a simple warrior, well trained and equipped warrior, she's higher than simple thugs, let's say captain, but lower than FB, and FB himself is pretty low. Just simple mercs, disposable units, in SERN's scale.
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VOLIN RABBAH Jan 16, 2018 @ 6:23pm 
'Doesn`t fight like that", she never really fights, all she did was shot a 16 year old at point blank range.
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VOLIN RABBAH Jan 16, 2018 @ 6:30pm 
She got her suit because she was working for fb, she doesn`t really know how to fight as it was demonstrated, but she had a gun, so it doesn`t matter. Where is this plot hole that you are talking about?
Sorin Jan 17, 2018 @ 6:05pm 
Originally posted by BOT Amadeus:
She got her suit because she was working for fb, she doesn`t really know how to fight as it was demonstrated, but she had a gun, so it doesn`t matter. Where is this plot hole that you are talking about?

So you missed the part where she takes Suzuha down, who is a seasoned soldier herself?
VOLIN RABBAH Jan 17, 2018 @ 6:43pm 
Originally posted by Sorin Markov:
Originally posted by BOT Amadeus:
She got her suit because she was working for fb, she doesn`t really know how to fight as it was demonstrated, but she had a gun, so it doesn`t matter. Where is this plot hole that you are talking about?

So you missed the part where she takes Suzuha down, who is a seasoned soldier herself?

Maybe that`s in the anime, but I don`t recall that happening in the VN
DPM JaMaN Jan 18, 2018 @ 1:07am 
It never happened in the VN and the anime as well. They just both pointed guns on each other, that's not the best situation to fight, though after Suzu was distracted Moeka used this opportunity to hit her, but that hit has nothing to do with skills and stuff. And btw, Suzu is not THAT strong, I mean yeah, she knocked out few unprepared dudes, but Suzu from the Beta world line (S;G ending and S;G 0) is much stronger.
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tricosahedron Jan 18, 2018 @ 1:12am 
Originally posted by Sorin Markov:
So you missed the part where she takes Suzuha down, who is a seasoned soldier herself?

Yeah, that didn't happen in the VN: Suzuha and Moeka end up in a standoff situation where they point guns at each other. But it's not necessarily because Moeka is as skilled as Suzuha, since Suzuha has achieved her goal to allow Okabe to use the time leap machine.
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Date Posted: Jan 13, 2018 @ 3:29am
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