DLC recommendations?

[Carter]

Just wondering which DLC’s you guys think add the most in terms of content. Looking at buying some this sale and would like your opinion.

Which DLC’s are most needed, which are skippable. Any help is appreciated.

[Poompaxhotl-Mardxvar]

So vanilla focuses are only good if you like to play vanilla and hunt for achievement, that's why only mechanics matter.

1. Together for Victory offers more deep subject-protectorate relationships, but most of the times it comes to annexing them. And conversation mods generally don't use it.
2. Death or Dishonor. Licences are not worth it. Equipment convertation can be good, but it's not an essential.
3. Waking the Tiger. General traits are helpful, but not essential.
4. Man the Guns. Fleet designer is nice, but as long as you use fleet. Governments in Exile and Admiral Traits are not worth it. Mines are meh, but can be useful in long-term. Controlling naval regions is really good.
5. La Resistance. Espionage is really useful for vanilla collaboration governments, but it's heavily limited in mods and not worth it. Recon planes are not worth it.
6. Battle for Bosporus only adds focus trees.
7. No Step Back. Tank designer is cool.
8. By Blood Alone. Plane designer is cool. New buttons for peace conferences are cool and THE ONLY SUPERIOR feature compared to the old ones. Since you're forced to use the new peace conferences it's a must have.
9. Arms Against Tyranny. International market is sometimes nice, but i barely use it outside of the early game. Special forces doctrines are must have if you want to use them.

My personal rating would be something like this: By Blood Alone, No Step Back, Man the Guns (fleet is important!), Arms Against Tyranny, La Resistance, Waking the Tiger, Together for Victory. Anything else is only if you care about vanilla focuses of the countries and additional flavour (music, 3d models and so on).

[Aluvard]

NSB and MtG are must have.
In my opinion NSB is essential DLC if you prefer countries that solves most of their conflicts on land. MtG is it's naval counterpart.
Arms Against Tyranny - Military Industrial Organizations, international market and changes regarding special units.
Death or Dishonor and Waking the Tiger - different "quality of gameplay" improvements and additional options.
La Resistance - spy mechanics could be better but collab government can compensate it (lower surrender limit, up to -30%), they reworked Spanish Civil War.

You should subscribe for at least 1 month to check which one you like (fair warning - when you've subscription active, you can't buy any DLCs).

[kingarthur772]

Belongs if you prefer an unplayable 08/15-Game like Hoi 4 was before the DLCs or with the upcomming Patches an playable intersting historical Game, where you need for the interresting Options the DLCs.

[Belphegor]

All of them.

[Poompaxhotl-Mardxvar]

Originally posted by Colopatiron:

All of them.

t. Johan Andersson.

[Reaper King]

For me the most important and the ones which have the heaviest impact on gameplay are (Listed in order of importance):

No Step Back: Logistics, Railway guns, railway management, tank designer, army branches rework, full soviet tree. This one also gives 5 focus trees. It's by far the biggest bang for your buck and will improve and add to ground combat which is the most central part of the game

Arms Against Tyranny: Arms market. I cannot stress just how crucial this feature is. The arms market isn't that important for majors. But for minors? For minors, it opens the door to fielding flexible armies for the very first time. Wanted to field tanks and planes in your Sino-Japanese war as China? Well, now it is possible because instead of having to sacrifice precious mils you can instead just spend some civ output for a few months to buy the stuff you want. Not only that but the rehauled MIOs are great as the allow you to really focus on a play style even allowing you to pick bonuses for production.

La Resistance: Spies. That really what makes this so cool. It adds a whole nother element to how the game is done and can bring minor changes or major changes to combat depending on how you play.

Man the guns: Rehauls navy, gives 4 great focus trees. If you want naval warfare to be fun and interesting get this one.

Waking the Tiger: Gives you an honest to god China war, marshal and general skills, improves the german and Japanese focus trees.

By blood alone: Plane designer.

The other 3 are good but purely optional. Togther for victory is the one that sucks the most ♥♥♥♥. It's focus trees are downright awful. Death or Dishonor is alright and can be interesting. Battle for the Bosphorus is downright my favorite dlc ever added to the game. The Turkey, Bulgaria, and Greece trees are some of the most dynamic, most interesting and most fun trees ever added to the game.

[BigDaddySnip3r]

The bundle is a scam, so don't fall for it. It just has pointless cosmetics.

[apud.harald]

The one true Must Have is together for victory.
This unlocks the manpower of your puppets - the free patches do not.

MTG is - granted - fun, but you'll live without,and that goes for a lot of the rest. Russia;s vaunted Focus Tree from NSB is also mostly accessible with the free patch. If no Power can access the spy agency, it does not matter that you cannot either.

The ability to use the manpower of nations you liberated cannot be accessed without the DLC,and that hurts the protagonist Great Power ( presumably you ) more than anyone else.

IMHO, TFV is the one DLC with an asymetric game-changing impact.

[velvetcrabman]

You're going to get a different response from every player, this is probably the gem as far as the advice above goes:

Originally posted by Aluvard:

You should subscribe for at least 1 month to check which one you like (fair warning - when you've subscription active, you can't buy any DLCs).

[Chozer]

Originally posted by carter:

Just wondering which DLC’s you guys think add the most in terms of content. Looking at buying some this sale and would like your opinion.

Which DLC’s are most needed, which are skippable. Any help is appreciated.

i would love a full rework on every old country and update all their focuses. germany japan usa canada new zealand india ect and yes i would pay for it