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9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 12:46am
[SOLVED] Why does Japan get a war goal on Yugoslavia in 1941?
Specifically, while playing as Imperial Germany with the Central Powers in historical, Japan will randomly get an annex war goal against Yugoslavia in 1941 (in my current game, it was precisely February 1st of 1941) and will immediately declare. I cannot figure out where this war goal comes from and could only find a single inconclusive Reddit post about it on Google.

I don't care about anything except finding out the reasons behind this. If it's simple, call me stupid. If it's really weird, call the game stupid.

SPOILER ALERT: it was simple. i'm stupid.
Last edited by 9BoltVattery; Aug 18, 2022 @ 9:25am
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9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 1:04am 
The only way I could prevent them from declaring was by guaranteeing yugoslavia (as Germany)
Grinch Aug 18, 2022 @ 3:48am 
You and the other person on reddit both went Imperial Germany and then Japan pulls a 3 million IQ move. I'm as confused as you are since the "historical" a.i will try to adapt to non-historical player moves, but there's no logical reason for it to pick Yugoslavia BOTH times..
Grinch Aug 18, 2022 @ 4:00am 
I just thought of a reason why it happens: when you go imperial you lose a bunch of wargoals in your focus tree right? Japan is probably hardcoded to ignore anything Germany has claims on. but when you lose those claims they get put to the top of japans' list of "places I can attack" or does that sound way off?
9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 7:44am 
But here's the thing: It wasn't a justification. It was an annex wargoal that appeared out of nowhere, and there was no justification in the world tension history. This is how it happened both times, and I seriously think the game is designed to force that to happen.
9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 7:47am 
Who knows, perhaps it's one of Japan's focuses that got bugged and will target Yugoslavia if they still exist by 1941, though I believe I've already had plenty of games where Yugo's still existed to that time without me being Imperial Germany (with the Waking the Tiger DLC active)
9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 7:49am 
I do know, however, that it occurred before Japan got their wargoals on the colonies in east asia, so that's out of the question. (I specifically remember checking Japan and seeing that they only had war goals against Yugo and Shanxi, nothing else except that they had declared on the Philippines a few months earlier)
9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 7:53am 
I'll try loading up my save closest to february first (unfortunately, the closest one was a month earlier; december 22nd) and I'll swap to japan around january 28th or something

I'll get back to this thread with the results
Last edited by 9BoltVattery; Aug 18, 2022 @ 7:53am
kingarthur772 Aug 18, 2022 @ 8:31am 
Either it´s an overseen Bug or you play a-historically.
9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 8:32am 
alright im back with specifics
on the 1st of january 26th, japan materialized a war goal on yugoslavia. i actually have two screenshots that are just a few hours off, one where there's no war goal and one where there is a war goal
9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 8:33am 
and when i swapped to play japan through that time period, nothing happened. i got no event letting me get a war goal on yugo, and no focus finished (also ill admit i was actually incorrect about the Philippines thing, japan declared on the philippines later into february after their focus finished)
9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 8:35am 
WARNING:
ALL OF THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS 100% INCORRECT. I AM STUPID

wait, what if it's something about the game forcing an AI fascist major to get a war goal on yugo by that date, and because japan's the only fascist major, they get the war goal

like, perhaps the game says "Hey, is there [AI Fascist Major]? Yes! Hey, is Fascist Germany a Player? No!" and then gives the war goal to said AI Fascist Major upon seeing no player-led fascist Germany.
It just so happens, of course, that JAPAN is the only AI Fascist Major on the map.

that would explain why it only happens when playing as Imperial Germany, though I'm unsure if it's the exact reason behind it.

*edit: i removed a section relating to the time that japan's focus was at, because i wrongly stated they were 35 days into their focus. they were actually 31 days in.
Last edited by 9BoltVattery; Aug 18, 2022 @ 9:24am
9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 8:36am 
Originally posted by 9VoltBattery:
wait, what if it's something about the game forcing an AI fascist major to get a war goal on yugo by that date, and because japan's the only fascist major, they get the war goal
that was the case the first time, as well. by that point, i had converted italy to non-aligned and i myself obviously wasn't fascist, so japan (being the only remaining fascist major) is probably hard coded to get a war goal on that exact date
9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 8:54am 
oh

it's because of the tripartide pact event



if the UK objects & yugo doesn't commit to the civil war, then japan gets an annex war goal.
Last edited by 9BoltVattery; Aug 18, 2022 @ 8:55am
9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 8:56am 
i'm a moron
9BoltVattery Aug 18, 2022 @ 9:01am 
i mean, TO BE FAIR, i personally believe there should be an event telling more countries than just yugoslavia that the UK objected to yugo joining the tripartide pact. if the world gets an event for renouncing treaty of trianon, then i don't think it's too bad an idea to give an event for actual WAR breaking out
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