Concentrated vs Dispersed Industry

[Luey Hewis]

Which industry model is better overall? I've read mixed feedback on the advantages of either but it leans more towards Dispersed. For USA for example, which one is superior? Concentrated due to America's remoteness from everyone else?

[Harbaugh]

I’d say that if you’ve lost air superiority to the point where strategic bombing is wrecking you, it’s game over as it is.

Concentrated to ensure you never lose control of the skies

[|H|H| Fr3ddi3]

Most nations should go Concentrated, especially all Majors.

The only reason not to is if you really cannot defend your airspace and you know with 100% certainty that you will be bombed to hell and back, Democratic Belgium / Denmark for example.

OR

If you are a minor nation and you need to rapidly build up arms to reinforce your underequipped divisions for a spot of very early for mongering before other nations build up larger forces / world tension gets too high.

[Lollibast]

Originally posted by |H|H| Fr3ddi3:

Most nations should go Concentrated, especially all Majors.

If you are a minor nation and you need to rapidly build up arms to reinforce your underequipped divisions for a spot of very early for mongering before other nations build up larger forces / world tension gets too high.

or if you need to switch your strategic focus and simply dont have the IC . e.g build up of infantry first, once you catch up on research build planes or tanks, than go naval and might switch to CV planes / nav bombers

[PuttBlug]

It's a tough one to be sure. People here forget that it's not only factory vulnerability but efficiency base as well as retention. Every time you upgrade your equipment you lose efficiency based on which industry technology you've chosen.

[dzantor]

Originally posted by total warrior:

It's a tough one to be sure. People here forget that it's not only factory vulnerability but efficiency base as well as retention. Every time you upgrade your equipment you lose efficiency based on which industry technology you've chosen.

at last one who ACTUALLY knows what he is talking about, answered.

[kingarthur772]

Not all, Germany etc. should have the devided. Australia, Austria, New Zealand for example should have concentradet.

[FDX]

Concentrated if you're top 1%, otherwise Dispersed. Not going to argue why beyond simple explanation.

[Kanjejou]

Concentrated is good if you know you not goign to lose your land or get bombed, it allow with less factory and ressources to field more stuff, thus need less civilian factory to get the effectiv ressoruces you need.

BUT you won't be able to switch production line and changing your tank/oplane model will reduce productivity

Dispersede allow to keep productivity decent even when getting bombed since the damages will be reduced and allow to switch production whitout losing too much of it.
you also start new line with better production level

[Leon Declis]

How often are you expecting to upgrade your equipment?

For example, Communist China needs the guns, and upgrading the gun means restarting production efficiency (better to have 10 bad guns than 1 good gun), so you just stick with the basic Infantry Equipment. This is good for Concentrated. Concentrated is also good if you know you're not building a lot of factories (a lot of smaller nations), so you can get everything you need to get.

If, however, you get a ton of factories anyway, and a lot of technology boosts (like German Riech), and you'll be upgrading everything as much as possible, and you can have as many factories as you need, dispersed is pretty good.

[aaryanarora555]

which one is better for a soviet game?

[NamelessOne]

Originally posted by aaryanarora555:

which one is better for a soviet game?

I prefer dispersed, Soviets will be building mils all the way to the end of the war, they can just make more factories to make up the difference. Also they will frequently upgrade tanks as the war goes on, though if you play it right and rush them you can build up huge amount of t34 and not need to upgrade because you overran Germany before 42 is over.

I prefer concentrated for nations that run out of build slots.

[Liam]

Disperses is generally better if you will be at war in 1939 as you will have produced more at that time. It takes over 400 days for the effects of Concentrated to "overtake" those of Dispersed in terms of total production for a given production queue

[GoldenTalon]

Concentrated

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by ɯɐᴉ˥:

Disperses is generally better if you will be at war in 1939 as you will have produced more at that time. It takes over 400 days for the effects of Concentrated to "overtake" those of Dispersed in terms of total production for a given production queue

+1.

Concentrated is better generaly only in strategy produce same model several years (eg start 36 infantry equipment and dont touch it). Otherwise factory output bonus is inferior to retention lose from changes.

[Gamer Maid]

Actually all the maths behind this are pretty long to explain. There are topics like this on the official forum and it's not that easy to respond in details without looking at the maths. The best thing to do in solo game is to take dispersed pretty much all the time because of the base production. I even take it with Commie China simply because i will take all the factories from all the warlords and from China as well. I always research the 1936 infantry equipment at the start of the game because, well... it's solo game, so it's super easy to defeat the IA anyway. And i will have much more military factories that i need even without building that many of it and with the better base production i will have much more equipment faster than concentrated industry. Add to that EACH time you are launching an other production line, you will always have a much better base production and from my experience (and it's even more true with time, considering the upgrades) the only scenario when using concentrated industry is better (in solo games) is when you will play a little country and won't invade anyone. Add to that, i'm ALWAYS flooding tons of stuff at some point (i'm not even talking about super late game, but during big wars). So, usually if you take concentrated industry you will reach that point later (the flooding point) and meanwhile you will have less equipment. Even when i'm playing with the Soviets and wait for Barbarossa with max boost on Germany, Italy and Japan i always go for dispersed simply because against the IA, the best thing you need to do pretty much all the time is to have as many as you can, as fast as you can because if you are able to be stronger when you are attacking (like Germany) or stronger when you are defending (like the Soviets) against the IA it's much better for you 100% of the time. Simply because the IA will suicide on your lines anyway, dispersed industry means better defense much sooner and you will always needs much less equipment after the first attack of the IA than before the first attack because the IA will become less and less effective due to all the losses, so you will actually needs less and less stuff. Same thing for airplanes BTW. As soon as you have a big advantage in air supremacy, you will loose much less airplanes. So be able to have as many as you can as fast as you can (once again, based one the base production) meens faster you will be able to dominate the ennemy airforce so less production per day you will need. And I always flood thousands of airplanes as a major before to make capitulate all my ennemies. So in solo game if you are building a lot of factories without invading other countries or if you are playing with a minor and you will invade big countries, dispersed 100% of the times.