Peace Conference Tips

[Karolus Rex]

I recently had a big war against the Axis as Confederate States of America. It wen't fairly similarly to RL though political ideology differed everywhere. I bombed the living daylights out of Germany, destroyed Italy, the Balkans, Africa, recaptured France, with very little allied support. About a year before the end of the war I was grinding out in Italy and France when Germany suddenly declared war on the Soviet Union. SU then proceeded to curb stomp Germany in a year whilst I was struggling to advance the last bit.

SU caused around 2M casualties to Germany, did no bombing, just took the last bit of territory. I on the other hand had caused around 18M casualties to the combined Axis, wrecked their war fighting ability and retook 90% of the territory.

Then came the peace conference, and instantly SU took or puppeted EVERYTHING. Literally. EVERYTHING. Before I even had a chance to bid for things. Why? Because he took 12M casualties whereas I only had 1.5M.

Is there any way to fix this problem? Either with tips or mods. This feels ridiculously unfair and unbalanced.

[spike2071]

They already lowered how much casualties count, but it obviously didn't help in situations like yours. It either needs to be balanced by casualties inflicted, or removed altogether. I also think that you should only be able to bid on land that you control in the first round of the peace conference (same for the AI).

That being said, this mod puts you in control of the peace conference to allocate everything as you see fit:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=846066944

[Karolus Rex]

I tried that mod but even with it the SU just instantly takes everything.

The problem (I think) is that the game counted the SU war as separate from mine and solves their peace conference first, then mine. Because during the war the SU doesn't show up in the war list. Furthermore, the SU isn't in the list of the Peace Conference and the only countries listed on the losing side are a few small ones (Yugoslavia, Greece, El Salvador)

[Brandon_Lee]

As you probably know, it's number of states taken, damage inflicted and casualties taken that counts. If one participant has vastly succeeded in one of three fields then they'll get the majority of points, nothing wrong here from game logic's perspective.

Once, I played as France, was barely holding against Axis at the border... Luckily, Axis declared on URSS, it took russians quite a while to deploy and regroup, they eventually ended up stopping german offensive in late 41 between Rzhev and Smolensk and then started to slooooowly push back. At some point germans hit 'all adults serve', finally there was hope they run out of men, but... Guess what? Axis declares on Yugoslavia (not even having enough divisions on the border! ♥♥♥♥). They break through weak defenses with little effort and while me and russians push hard racing to Berlin damn Yugo cavalry simply scatter across the land and take more than half regions from Axis. I pushed hard once they began redeploying and managed to get some points in Italy, up to Florence, and in Germany. Brits took Sicily, URSS barely made it to Stettin and Gleiwitz, bad luck... We held the line for more than 3 years and killed no less than 10M while losing around 13 (I lost like 4M, you can imagine what it means for France). And then Yugoslavia puppeted half the Europe. Move along, move along...

[Karolus Rex]

The problem is I'm not even IN the peace conference. They claim everything and then the peace conference starts.

More than that, I caused 6 times more casualties, did infinitely more bombing, took three times the territory, 9 times fewer casualties, and I'm not even even in the conference? How is that not broken logic?

Anyway, my question is, is there a mod/console command where I can disable the AI peace conferences or change the order in which they are solved so that I can have a chance of liberating/puppeting something?

[Rodi]

OP is correct.
peace conference are and have always been trash.
for some reason, in your game, the two wars didn't get merged into ww2 leading to separate peace deals.

[Brandon_Lee]

Originally posted by Carl Drogo:

The problem is I'm not even IN the peace conference. They claim everything and then the peace conference starts.

More than that, I caused 6 times more casualties, did infinitely more bombing, took three times the territory, 9 times fewer casualties, and I'm not even even in the conference? How is that not broken logic?

Anyway, my question is, is there a mod/console command where I can disable the AI peace conferences or change the order in which they are solved so that I can have a chance of liberating/puppeting something?

Wait... How exactly did you (and Soviets) join this war? Did you (or they) declare war on Axis?

[Karolus Rex]

I joined the war due to an ally declaring war on Germany, forcing me to join it too. Close to the end of the war Germany declared war on the Soviet Union.

Just went through an insanely arduous process of switching sides with consoles and switching factions/puppets/controlled territories/government type for the last 2 hours to fix it. What a waste of the little gaming time I have. I just wish there was some way to merge wars or change the order in which peace conferences for different wars ending at the same time are triggered.

[Brandon_Lee]

So it's indeed two different wars? No wonder you get this. Don't think I've ever seen a mod that can do something about it...

[Karolus Rex]

But WHY is it two different wars? I still did 90% of the work and fighting and bombing and controlling territories. AND we're two separate factions fighting against a single third faction. And why does their war get "solved" first? Can I at least change that?

[andersrlarsen]

which war get solved first, depends on who they surrender to.
if germany (as last major country) surrendered to soviet, that means that their war get peace conference first.
note that it is only victory points in core territory that counts towards capitulation.

best way to prevent this is to ignore africa completely, and wait with italy, and instead focus on western front. if you wanty a second front, then make landing in northern germany. this allow you to cut of the soviets from taking italy, while also taking german core VP's.

[Karolus Rex]

I don't think that's the case though. I did some reshuffling of alliances and finished off a war with Brazil (not in the Axis) first. Then suddenly the peace conference ended with me getting it first, only then did SU get their peace conference. So I made a few months pass and suddenly it happens the other way around?