the kaahk auto spawn is getting to be a bit much...

[DrwHem]

look at this ♥♥♥♥. i have only been in this sector about an hour. when the hive spawns, i manually order my patrol to kill it...because patrol is USELESS. I get up to goto the bathroom and come back to this...
cost me a jian this time.
https://ibb.co/85N6rS3

[mmmcheesywaffles]

Either you spent too long in the bathroom or the Khaak were waiting for you to leave.

If the former... go get your Prostate checked ;P

If the latter... learn to use Pause and stop letting those Khaak read your mind ;P

[DEATHLORD]

I am mining the same sector as you and after 9 days I have had not one Khaak show up. I have only lost 4 miners to SCA and nothing else. I am running over 80 miners in this sector
EDIT
Once I got over 90 miners in this sector they started to appear. It will be interesting to see if they disappear once I get back down to 80
EDIT
Once I took the miners back down to 80 the Khaak disappeared.

[[Vilu]]

Similar situation in my game after HF3.
The Void, Psious Mists 4 and Asteroid belt all have crazy Kha'ak spawns. I can look away for 2-5mins and 1-4 new groups have spawned. Had to upgrade all my miners to large ones (also cut my miners count in half with that) to not have to rebuild my miners once every 10minutes.

I have maybe 20-30 miners of my own in total, split between those 3 and other sectors, so it must be the AI miner spam that it's causing them to spawn (or something went wrong with the hotfix). Rarely I see more than maybe 6 of my miners in the same sector, due to their slow travel speed.

Literally all I can do (or could do, if I wanted - L miners can tank 8+ medium kha'ak so I can slack with it) is to issue attack orders with my patrols...

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by DEATHLORD:

I am mining the same sector as you and after 9 days I have had not one Khaak show up. I have only lost 4 miners to SCA and nothing else. I am running over 80 miners in this sector

? I mine with 15 l miners.... I get them constatly lmao.

[Wraith]

got to check for those kha'ak station.
the minute Kha'ak start showing up I hunt down it stations with impunity.

[blackphoenixx]

Originally posted by Vilu:

Literally all I can do (or could do, if I wanted - L miners can tank 8+ medium kha'ak so I can slack with it) is to issue attack orders with my patrols...

Use repeat orders and attack enemies in range commands to get your patrols to effectively engage khaak spawns on their own.

You can experiment with the number of attack orders - more orders means more area covered but also longer response times.
But just not having your ships out of position at the ass-end of the sector is already worth a lot compared to the normal patrol command.

Though for reference i've had the same khaak infestation in Pious Mists and a single Gorgon Vanguard (shard batteries + flak turrets) modded for maximum speed keeps the sector clean by itself for about 20 hours now with no issues (and also collects a lot of mod parts in the process).
It just follows a loop of 5 attack enemies in range/collect loot orders covering the resource belt in the middle where my miners actually are so it generally engages pretty fast if enemies appear.

[DrwHem]

how do you repeat orders?

[Xenomorph]

When a sector has high Khaak activity, there's a hive nearby, you'll have to look for it and destroy it. Look for some weird construct faar in the distance, the hives can spawn quite far away but they're easy to spot... unless it's a sector with lots of rocks or gas clouds.
I've never see one spawned above or below the ecliptic, so you don't have to look up or down.

The stations are fairly easy to destroy, just mind they'll spawn some ships to get in your way, so be prepared.

The repeat order thing is in the default behaviors. It's basically buy here, sell there.

[johntarmac]

Originally posted by DrwHem:

how do you repeat orders?

This guy gives a good explanation for it's various applications.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhn_COZESQI&ab_channel=CaptainCollins

[[Vilu]]

Originally posted by blackphoenixx:

Originally posted by Vilu:

Literally all I can do (or could do, if I wanted - L miners can tank 8+ medium kha'ak so I can slack with it) is to issue attack orders with my patrols...

Use repeat orders and attack enemies in range commands to get your patrols to effectively engage khaak spawns on their own.

You can experiment with the number of attack orders - more orders means more area covered but also longer response times.

Tried that at one point. Worked for a while, but then the attacks started to happen outside of the attack areas. Added few more but it became so slow that it felt like normal patrol(s) would randomly be there faster. Had do add more ships/fleets instead, but that unassigned/fleet spam was no fun for my eyes.

So currently I'm using mimic behaviour to create multiple patrol fleets under 1 fleet (for less fleet spam). Works good enough, no dead miners and my stations are not starving for resources so they are doing it fast enough.

For anyone wondering, basically you have your patrol fleet like usually, just set mimic ones with their own subordinates under it. Like:

- Patrol fleet leader*
-- Mimic 'leader' 1.
--- Attack subordinates for the mimic 1.
-- Mimic 'leader' 2.
--- Attack subordinates for the mimic 2.
-- Mimic 'leader' 3.
--- Attack subordinates for the mimic 3.
etc.etc.

Each mimic with their subordinates seem to doing their patrolling as individual patrol fleets, as far as I've observed.

* = Behaviour mule. I use destroyer so it wont die, because the whole fleet structure relies on its behaviour, so can't have it dying on me.

[Valhalla Awaits]

Originally posted by DrwHem:

look at this ♥♥♥♥. i have only been in this sector about an hour. when the hive spawns, i manually order my patrol to kill it...because patrol is USELESS. I get up to goto the bathroom and come back to this...
cost me a jian this time.
https://ibb.co/85N6rS3

What do I have to do to have something even remotely this exciting happen in my game? There is nothing for me to shoot, nothing invades anywhere, the xenon are couch potatoes, and the kha'ak in my game have never been seen with more than 4 ships at a time outside of missions that spawn them. I envy you.

[DrwHem]

im out of sector and just watching the screen. i dont even get 5 minutes before they appear in the sector again. i have scouted the sector and there are no bases. this is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tedious i cant even play the game anymore. i just have to sit here and babysit my patrol. ive probably killed 35 to 50 kaahk in the last 30 minutes.

[Wraith]

Originally posted by DrwHem:

im out of sector and just watching the screen. i dont even get 5 minutes before they appear in the sector again. i have scouted the sector and there are no bases. this is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tedious i cant even play the game anymore. i just have to sit here and babysit my patrol. ive probably killed 35 to 50 kaahk in the last 30 minutes.

it not that tedious just set a couple of scouts on explore duty on the sector edges, up to two sector from the infestation.

That how I keep finding those Kha'ak bases myself to exterminate.

[Sabaithal]

Of course ONE patrol isn't going to be useful. I have like six in my main sector. And one or two strategically placed destroyers in locations likely to see enemy activity. It works out well most of the time.

[Dracon]

The real problem that needs attention here is that the Xenon can't defend against those Khaak raids, while already getting heavily hit by the Split.

As for patrols... Mine just stay in the middle of the system and don't move...