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Dracon Apr 3, 2021 @ 8:12am
How to protect my stations from getting hacked by Pirates
Going by the giant pile of computronic substrate near my HQ, I have to assume that pirates somehow manage to hack it. Is there any way to protect my stations from that, or is it just something I have to deal with?
Last edited by Dracon; Apr 3, 2021 @ 8:18am
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Daddy Shark Apr 3, 2021 @ 8:33am 
More than likely someone bought some substrates from you, then met an untimely end as they were undocking.
eMYNOCK  [developer] Apr 3, 2021 @ 8:38am 
Originally posted by Star Trucker:
More than likely someone bought some substrates from you, then met an untimely end as they were undocking.

this is possibility 2.

possibility 1 is indeed a Pirate that hacked the storage, there is nothing one can do about that.. unless the HQ is in a player owned Sector and the Player has deployed some Fighter for Police duties... Police will scan Ships and reveal Pirates.

You also can mark very suspicious Ships (like Plunderer Behemoth / Phoenix) as hostiles... your Station will scare them away with their weapons should they have some... or they just kill the Ship.

Other then the mentioned Police there are no preemptive measures... only a keen eye and frequent checking for suspicious Ships will keep your storage save.
Last edited by eMYNOCK; Apr 3, 2021 @ 8:39am
Wraith Apr 3, 2021 @ 8:39am 
if you still have computronic substrate on your station you weren't hack.

though to protect your station from hacking you need some police and patrol.
Police will reveal pirates and patrol will smack them.
arrak Apr 3, 2021 @ 8:46am 
Go to "create rules" menue.
Something "override of who to fire at" section.
on right hand-side you have a list of factions. And each faction has a dropdown
menue of how choices how they should be treated.

Set Fleet of 3 destroyers to guard space. (Station within Space)
Give the created SCA destroy rule to each destroyer ;)

(Two Destroyers intercepts for main destroyer is how i do it)

Pirates will get stomped pronto. and do not forget to drop a few laser towers.
Laser towers are guardian dogs, and speeds up the action of your destoyers,
and they tell your plasma turrets to shoot those mothers

IMPORTANT: The pirates mostly do NOT hack your station. They shoot
with their Plasma one of your Containers down!!!!!!!
Last edited by arrak; Apr 3, 2021 @ 9:00am
Dracon Apr 3, 2021 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by Star Trucker:
More than likely someone bought some substrates from you, then met an untimely end as they were undocking.

Originally posted by Wraith:
if you still have computronic substrate on your station you weren't hack.

though to protect your station from hacking you need some police and patrol.
Police will reveal pirates and patrol will smack them.

Shouldn't be, it's all stuff I'm either producing for my own purposes, or am buying to get high mass teleportation running. In fact I was already almost full for research, the only things that were missing are Advanceed Electronics and Nividium... Now I'm back to ~ 60% resources.


Originally posted by eMYNOCK:
Originally posted by Star Trucker:
More than likely someone bought some substrates from you, then met an untimely end as they were undocking.

this is possibility 2.

possibility 1 is indeed a Pirate that hacked the storage, there is nothing one can do about that.. unless the HQ is in a player owned Sector and the Player has deployed some Fighter for Police duties... Police will scan Ships and reveal Pirates.

You also can mark very suspicious Ships (like Plunderer Behemoth / Phoenix) as hostiles... your Station will scare them away with their weapons should they have some... or they just kill the Ship.

Other then the mentioned Police there are no preemptive measures... only a keen eye and frequent checking for suspicious Ships will keep your storage save.


So If I relocate my HQ to lets say Getsu Fune, and have the Terran Police License, can I police for the Terrans too, or does it have to be my own sector? The License text suggests the former, but I couldn't set it up in Jupiter.

Otherwise, the only thing I can figure is letting my Syn dock there, cut off all station trade, and rebuy everything manually, since it already despawned...
eMYNOCK  [developer] Apr 3, 2021 @ 9:05am 
you can not send your ships on police duty in other Factions Space i'm afraid.

you can only do that in your own space... but as terrans tend to be very territorial they scan any and everyone anyway... so.. that would work as well.

a more long term approach would be to complete one of the Terrafoming Projects... something that is related to the more prominent Pirate Faction.

*cough* Terraform Scale Plate Green for SCA and they get friendly to you, no more raids on your assets *cough*
Last edited by eMYNOCK; Apr 3, 2021 @ 9:07am
arrak Apr 3, 2021 @ 9:12am 
Originally posted by eMYNOCK:
you can not send your ships on police duty in other Factions Space i'm afraid.

you can only do that in your own space... but as terrans tend to be very territorial they scan any and everyone anyway... so.. that would work as well.

My ships do Not do Police duty. The certain 3 Destroyers per Area of station, i gave an
created "override fire" rule, where they are told to destroy all SCA, and not fire at Yaki.

Anyway...i do not want to be friendley with SCA. I need a fleet ;)
Last edited by arrak; Apr 3, 2021 @ 9:17am
Dracon Apr 3, 2021 @ 2:16pm 
Originally posted by eMYNOCK:
you can not send your ships on police duty in other Factions Space i'm afraid.

you can only do that in your own space... but as terrans tend to be very territorial they scan any and everyone anyway... so.. that would work as well.

a more long term approach would be to complete one of the Terrafoming Projects... something that is related to the more prominent Pirate Faction.

*cough* Terraform Scale Plate Green for SCA and they get friendly to you, no more raids on your assets *cough*
For that, they'd have to stop raiding my HQ, so I can actually research High Mass Teleportation... HMT I...

Looks like it will be faster to show the the consequence of their grave Syn at one of their bases...
I will probably rue it next time I want to go to Khaak hunting in Silent Whisper, but being locked out of game progression is worse than that
Last edited by Dracon; Apr 3, 2021 @ 2:21pm
Sabaithal Apr 3, 2021 @ 2:30pm 
With a proactive response. Because there is no way to shield a station against hacking. The only automated way of doing this is to have squads "police" a regions, which is the same as "patrol" only they scan ships not of your faction. Though its unreliable.

The manual response is to find the SCA ships yourself (it will always have something like "minotaur raider, omniraider, plunderer" in the name) and kill them before they can do anything.

Aside from that, you can ensure that anyone stupid enough to steal from you doesn't get away with it. By installing overpowered L-sized plasma turrets. You won't need a lot. One disc or bridge platform for each cardinal direction should provide all the coverage you should need.
Last edited by Sabaithal; Apr 3, 2021 @ 2:30pm
Dracon Apr 3, 2021 @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by Sabaithal:
With a proactive response. Because there is no way to shield a station against hacking. The only automated way of doing this is to have squads "police" a regions, which is the same as "patrol" only they scan ships not of your faction. Though its unreliable.

The manual response is to find the SCA ships yourself (it will always have something like "minotaur raider, omniraider, plunderer" in the name) and kill them before they can do anything.

Aside from that, you can ensure that anyone stupid enough to steal from you doesn't get away with it. By installing overpowered L-sized plasma turrets. You won't need a lot. One disc or bridge platform for each cardinal direction should provide all the coverage you should need.
Wait... Do patrols scan too? A few Kukri's would be so much cheaper than a large scale campaign against the Cluster of eight stations residing in Grand Exchange III
Last edited by Dracon; Apr 3, 2021 @ 2:38pm
Sabaithal Apr 3, 2021 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by Dracon:
Wait... Do patrols scan too? A few Kukri's would be so much cheaper than a large scale campaign against the Cluster of five stations residing in Grand Exchange III
I've never witnessed ships on patrol scan other ships. They will however have a tendency to "jump" between known stations, rather than the empty void areas.
Ai Apr 3, 2021 @ 2:42pm 
No wonder i can't get any research done, there's a pirate base right next to my HQ....sigh. No idea pirates could do this till now, that explain a few things. How to deal with this when am nowhere near the point i could claim a sector to get the police/patrol deal with it? Really don't want to babysit my base for hours on end to prevent this, but i think i need to. Bleh.

Terrible.
Last edited by Ai; Apr 3, 2021 @ 2:43pm
Dracon Apr 3, 2021 @ 2:45pm 
Originally posted by Ai:
No wonder i can't get any research done, there's a pirate base right next to my HQ....sigh. No idea pirates could do this till now, that explain a few things. How to deal with this when am nowhere near the point i could claim a sector to get the police/patrol deal with it? Really don't want to babysit my base for hours on end to prevent this, but i think i need to. Bleh.

Terrible.
Well as a Terran you could probably take over the sector with a Syn. That is, if you want to go to war with the Teladi.

The annoying thing is that it also keeps me from continuing the Terran plot line, as the Argon's are the only one's selling what I need for those jumps... And for some reason, research doesn't need a single Terran ware.
Last edited by Dracon; Apr 3, 2021 @ 2:51pm
Sabaithal Apr 3, 2021 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by Dracon:
Well as a Terran you could probably take over the sector with a Syn. That is, if you want to go to war with the Teladi.

The annoying thing is that it also keeps me from continuing the Terran plot line, as the Argon's are the only one's selling what I need for those jumps... And for some reason, research doesn't need a single Terran ware.
If ARG is the only one selling what you want...why not make it yourself? If its a commodity, there are stations that you can use to make it yourself. And if its a blueprint, you can buy said blueprint from them and make it yourself at your own equipment dock/shipyard.
Dracon Apr 3, 2021 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by Sabaithal:
Originally posted by Dracon:
Well as a Terran you could probably take over the sector with a Syn. That is, if you want to go to war with the Teladi.

The annoying thing is that it also keeps me from continuing the Terran plot line, as the Argon's are the only one's selling what I need for those jumps... And for some reason, research doesn't need a single Terran ware.
If ARG is the only one selling what you want...why not make it yourself? If its a commodity, there are stations that you can use to make it yourself. And if its a blueprint, you can buy said blueprint from them and make it yourself at your own equipment dock/shipyard.

Because the Argon production chain is too long for my personal liking. Even if it wasn't though, building up a production chain for all the materials only pays off once the station is in the Ort Cloud, where it's storage is save from pesky pirates...
Last edited by Dracon; Apr 3, 2021 @ 3:24pm
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