X4: Foundations

X4: Foundations

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Punchmeat Jun 5, 2020 @ 4:52pm
If I likeElite Dangerous would I like this?
I'm in desperate need for more space sim games and this seems to be one of the bigger ones.; This with the DLC are on sale. Worth it?
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Dark_D_Shadow Jun 5, 2020 @ 5:04pm 
I would also like to know this ?
Sabaithal Jun 5, 2020 @ 5:18pm 
They're similar, but NOT identical by any means. It depends on what you are looking for.

X4 has high emphasis on building an empire, with ships and/or stations, managing large sums of money, mining operations, trading, patrols, etc. Admittedly, nothing is stopping you from doing any of these things personally, in fact most 'missions' need to be completed personally.

That being said, the roleplay of the individual player is something you kinda need to create for yourself. There aren't as many options for gameplay if you are not trying to run an economic empire of some sort. At least, not that many that will progress the game much. There is resource mining and trading, and some military/outlaw things you can do, but nothing like bounty hunting (unfortunately) or signing on for a military campaign, temporarily. There is exploring as well, but admittedly there isn't too much to find. A consequence of a game that doesn't focus primarily on it.

The main criticism of this game is people often find a lack of direction. IE what do I do now? There are many things to do, but not always a reason to do them at all. There is a main story, but...well it takes a long while for it to kick off. Case and point, I haven't had it happen yet.
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Punchmeat Jun 5, 2020 @ 5:20pm 
I'm used to not having direction ED is exactly like that. I just want a game thats fun and functional especially with my joystick
Sabaithal Jun 5, 2020 @ 5:21pm 
Originally posted by Lusty Argonian Maid:
I'm used to not having direction ED is exactly like that. I just want a game thats fun and functional especially with my joystick
Well it is a fun and (mostly) functional galaxy sandbox, and even has modding support.

Though while it does have controller support, I can't speak for how good the controls are. If you are going to use a controller, I would recommend using it only for actual combat. Interacting with the VERY complex UI outside of combat is already a nightmare, much less with a controller.
Sticky Jun 5, 2020 @ 5:23pm 
I own Elite Dangerous and i never played it. But i played all of Egosofts X-Series over my lifetime. And would highly recommend it to someone who likes to do what he wants in a game. With a game that can be played many different ways. I actually spend 95% of my time being flown around by a pilot, too busy doing building stations, or manual trading, or setting up Fleets or Traders for my Empire.
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Dark_D_Shadow Jun 5, 2020 @ 5:30pm 
Originally posted by Sabaithal:
Originally posted by Lusty Argonian Maid:
I'm used to not having direction ED is exactly like that. I just want a game thats fun and functional especially with my joystick
Well it is a fun and (mostly) functional galaxy sandbox, and even has modding support.

Though while it does have controller support, I can't speak for how good the controls are. If you are going to use a controller, I would recommend using it only for actual combat. Interacting with the VERY complex UI outside of combat is already a nightmare, much less with a controller.
Kinda misleading the full controller support tag though :/
Sticky Jun 5, 2020 @ 5:37pm 
X games in general are keyboard type games and mouse, though it would be fun with a Flight Stick if you plan to do a bunch of dog fighting but, would have to be setup properly and not like plug and play and it works, can be a pain. But i play and fight and fly with Mouse and keyboard, using a W A S D type feel. So normal to playing other games. But lots of extra things you can use on the keyboard, so many things you can do.
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Sabaithal Jun 5, 2020 @ 5:38pm 
Originally posted by DarkShadowBe:
Originally posted by Sabaithal:
Well it is a fun and (mostly) functional galaxy sandbox, and even has modding support.

Though while it does have controller support, I can't speak for how good the controls are. If you are going to use a controller, I would recommend using it only for actual combat. Interacting with the VERY complex UI outside of combat is already a nightmare, much less with a controller.
Kinda misleading the full controller support tag though :/
Well, it probably can be operated fully with a controller. I just don't recommend that. Again, the UI in this game is monstrously complex.
Punchmeat Jun 5, 2020 @ 5:44pm 
Wrong type of joystick I mean my HOTAS
Wraith Jun 5, 2020 @ 7:07pm 
Pretty sure HOTAS is possible.

I'm not much of that type of player but my friend got his set up to work with the game.

You might have to mess with some settings and stuff though if you want to do some fancy space drifting.
Like turn flight assist off.
Fartikus Jun 5, 2020 @ 7:15pm 
I played 54 hours on Elite Dangerous before quitting. Spending nearly all one's time flying from Point A to Point B became a total bore.

On X4, I figure I'll have 300 hours of game time in by the end of next week.

Akimbo 4narchist Jun 5, 2020 @ 8:33pm 
Every ship is flyable in x4 and the game is structured in a way that you decide what you want to do. One thing x4 gets right is progression, full scale battles and building your own empire. Combat isnt perfect but very functional, you cant land on planets, and there is no co op or multiplayer. x4 is much more difficult to learn IMO but just as fun. Its very hard to compare because other than being set in space they have very very little in common, they are both fantastic and I would def reccomend grabbing either. DO BUY DLC as well, they have some of the best ships in the game.
Psycho 78 Jun 5, 2020 @ 9:19pm 
I've spent a little over 200 hours in ED since 2017. I've spent 170 hours in X4 since last month. Elite was a lot of fun until I just got tired of the traveling and the shallow game world.

I like Elite and I like strategy games, X4 is a good combination of both. You don't get a huge galaxy and landable planets like ED. What you do get is fleets of ships under your command, building your own stations, walking around on stations, and spacewalking.

ED is better for dogfighting. The mouse/keyboard flight controls on X4 are strange, but once you learn them they are better since you need mouse/keyboard for everything else in the game.

Get X4, it's lots of fun and very deep.
Xenomorph Jun 5, 2020 @ 9:24pm 
No. Elite is a completely different kind of beast, much, much, much more mature and with a lot more possibilities. X4 will drag you into something that is shallow in essence, just because there is no sense of accomplishment.
If you like Elite for it's depth, you'll be disappointed with X4. This is like a child still in it's father's balls.
Wraith Jun 5, 2020 @ 9:54pm 
Originally posted by Xenomorph:
No. Elite is a completely different kind of beast, much, much, much more mature and with a lot more possibilities. X4 will drag you into something that is shallow in essence, just because there is no sense of accomplishment.
If you like Elite for it's depth, you'll be disappointed with X4. This is like a child still in it's father's balls.
lol Elite is not depth.

It more of a flight game with trading and stuff but never go that deep into it and that pretty much it.
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