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The Enclave should have been wiped out from Fallout 2 when The Chosen One destroyed them. The Brotherhood should act like the BoS Outcasts and should also be nearly wiped out after the NCR wars and the mutant army should be no where near as organised or powerful as they are.
FEV also shouldn't be in Fallout 3.
The Brotherhood has not always acted as elitist as the Outcasts - Midwestern Brotherhood, in Tactics, for example. They let actual _ghouls_ become Initiates. While the Outcasts are indeed closer to their "roots", the very fact that Bethesda INCLUDED that schism is a nod to the prior lore: they establish that Lyons is taking his Capitol Brotherhood in a direction different from prior BOS history.
And, the supermutants? In both F3 and FNV, they are not organised to speak of. FNV's are only "organised" in that they've established some communities. In F3, they all come from the SAME single place, so naturally regard each other as allies.
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As for where these factions stand in F4? NO ONE KNOWS.
Bethesda turned Vault Tech into some kind of Resident Evil Umbrella Corporation, wich upsets some people.
Vault-tech made their business form building massive massive fallout shelters and selling space inside them, taking advantage of the fear of nuclear war. Although they did have impressive tech, that tech was related to these vaults, for example power generating and water purification plants. So they made things along that line, like the GECK which contains blue prints and materials necessary to rebuild society once the vault opens. Kudos to Bethesda for using it correctly in the plot by the way.
However they did not run social experiments like subliminal messages or exposing people to the FEV to make super mutants. This was a Bethesda invention.
Moreover even if they did, the FEV is a weapon created by the US military to create front line soldiers. A top secret miliary weapon at that. There is no logical way that a private industry would get access to a top secret military weapon for the purposes of testing it on unwilling civilians. Instead the military would test it on volunteers, military volunteers who had clearance, in order to minimize the public backlash.
In fact the miliary has no reason to involve vault-tech in any way. They could conduct the experiment themselves and have fewer security leaks as a result. Not to mention they would not have to worry about the backlash once the vault opens after the experiment and people find out that one of vault-techs highly publicised vaults has somehow become infested with super mutants.
The entire scenario makes no sense.
Not to mention the FEV labs were supposedly destroyed at the end of FO1. So if Bethesda wanted to bring them back, they should have had them come from a military base that was working with the laboratories on the west coast at the time and shared data. That would be a much more plausible scenario.
So if you want to know how they ruined the lore, I would say that was the biggest error.
What are you talking about.
MOST of the military's secret weapons are developed by the private sector.
Ever heard of Lockheed Martin? Northrop Grumman? Just to name two among hundreds.
And if the government ever does collapse, you can bet your ass some of those companies are going to do some horrific things with those weapons.
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ really got my hopes up with that one :shakesfist:
it makes me think that fallout was initially never a game that meant to have a direct sequel, as in one directly related to the events in the game.
There is a big difference between hiring a genetics lab to help you make a biological weapon and hiring company to run tests of said weapon on civilians. Vault tech was not hired to DEVELOP the FEV. They were hired to TEST it, on civilians, inside a vault.
When these social experiments that vault tech is running come to an end the vaults will open up, as a result these tests will be revealed and allof the vaults will be under heavy scrutiny. The military would know that and never run a test inside one as a result.
Not to mention Vault-tech is advertising these vaults on TV and as such they are public knowledge. Even if it was a secret vault that was not being sold, the highly public nature of the vault system would be a security risk. It would just be a matter of time before people found out about the secret vault as well.
NO, it is safer to run the tests in a controlled environment on a military base using military personnel. Not on civilians, and not in vault, especially when Vault Tech is running advertisments on said vaults. Even if it is supposed to be a secret vault, the risk is too great. A military base would be more secure.
PS. The government fell because the country was bombarded by hundreds of nuclear warheads, not because of social upheaval. As a result the companies would be nothing more than radioactive debris and be in no position to do horrific things at all.
The equivalent of the presence of all three factions on the East Coast for F3 (And F4) would be an alternative history game where America was discovered by the Swiss, conquered by the Vietnamese and then colonised by Egyptians. Within the realms of theoretical possibility, but really rather silly.
That said, its a game. I don't mind. The new games aren't as enjoyable to me as Fallout 2 was, but well shucks! Thats life.