Binding keys - Numpad

[Psycold]

It's really annoying that you can't bind any keys on the numpad because they are all reserved, left handed PC gamers use the arrow keys on the right of the keyboard for movement and the surrounding keys for everything else. I've been using numpad 0 as my crouch/stealth button for more than a decade but now I feel like I would be better off using a gamepad which really sucks. You also can't bind the INSERT key above the arrows.

Also it says the controls are reserved when you try to bind them but you have no idea what they are reserved for. I got in game and forgot I couldn't use Numpad 0 to crouch and pressed it and somehow immediately used the one and only stimpak I had.

Bethesda, if you read these forums please make a point to fix this.

[Psycold]

Just found another control issue...even if you change the Activate button to something other than E, when you hover over items to pick things up, it stills forces you to press E. I changed my Activate button to ENTER and it let me bind it, but it only works when interacting with NPC's to start dialogue, it is broken when you try to pick up scavenge items...in fact it still tells me to press E.

[Psycold]

And yet another control issue discovered. Once I left the vault, as soon as I arrived at the surface...every keyboard and mouse button just stopped responding, the only thing I could do is look around with my mouse. I turned on my gamepad and what do ya know? Immediately works...this is pretty bad.

[avantre]

Originally posted by Psycold:

Just found another control issue...even if you change the Activate button to something other than E, when you hover over items to pick things up, it stills forces you to press E. I changed my Activate button to ENTER and it let me bind it, but it only works when interacting with NPC's to start dialogue, it is broken when you try to pick up scavenge items...in fact it still tells me to press E.

Seems to be a similar story with TAB - I rebound it to one of my extra mouse keys so I can bring up the pip boy easier, but it still requires you to press TAB to close some screens like the perks screen.

[Rei dos Vermes]

Originally posted by Psycold:

Just found another control issue...even if you change the Activate button to something other than E, when you hover over items to pick things up, it stills forces you to press E. I changed my Activate button to ENTER and it let me bind it, but it only works when interacting with NPC's to start dialogue, it is broken when you try to pick up scavenge items...in fact it still tells me to press E.

This is a problem since Fallout 3. And it's very unfortunate that we can't even use the numeric pad now... especially since the config .txt file is hardcoded.

I really don't want to play the game with a controller...

[wildpeaks]

That's quite annoying indeed, especially as there is no technical justification why it would arbitrarily prevent binding specific keys.

[wildpeaks]

I guess the least bad way to avoid the unbindable keys issue for now will be to use the Microsoft Keyboard Layout tool (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=22339) to make a fake keyboard where the numeric keys are moved elsewhere :(

[Psycold]

Yea after playing it for a few hours I must have encountered half a dozen different control problems, not even counting the intentional decision to make the numpad unusable. When you try to build stuff it doesn't let you place anything with the keyboard, when you pick a lock it still forces you to use WASD even when you have rebinded to arrow keys, as avantre mentioned, it forces you to use tab when you have it bound to something else, after changing your Use key it still forces you to use E when taking items from boxes or an inventory, but it works fine for picking up loose items you find...also it wants you to press tab to get out of menus but why can't we just press escape? Makes no sense how they set it up.

[Kvaal]

Same here. It's unplayable atm for me. Wha are the buttons reserved for exactly?

[Psycold]

Originally posted by Kvaal:

Same here. It's unplayable atm for me. Wha are the buttons reserved for exactly?

That is another bug/problem, it tells you keys are reserved but it doesn't tell you what they are reserved for. The only one I know for sure is that Numpad 0 is use stimpack. Also unplayable for me without a gamepad.

[wildpeaks]

Arg, turns out "Microsoft Keyboard Layout" is not a solution because it supports customizing every key.. except the numeric pad. *facepalm*

However, KbdEdit (http://www.kbdedit.com) supposably can edit the numeric pad too, but it costs almost as much as Fallout 4 itself x.x

[BoringProphet]

Same problem with Fallout 3, Skyrim, even Vermintide (but only the numpad enter key).

You can work around it quite nicely using autohotkey

[wildpeaks]

Does autohotkey prevent the reserved action from triggering though? Like, I don't want to also use a stimpack every time I press to reload.

[D#]

This really pissed me off with skyrim too and was later fixed with the mod community. One solution you might not like is to buy a keyboard that can rebind keys such as the logitech G series. Bethseda needs to wake up and put proper keybind support in their games, not just leave it to the modders.

[D#]

Yea autohotkey and the G series keyboards work in a similar fasion. You tell the software what you want the Num keys to actually represent. For example you set your num 0 to C (for crouch im guessing) and the game thinks you press C every time you hit num 0.

Fyi the keyboards have different profiles that you can set up per game, so everyday typing wont be jacked up with your creative keybinding.

[wildpeaks]

Thanks I'll give it a try :)