Did Anyone See The Movie "Dr. Strangelove" (1964) directed by Stanley Kubrick?

[The Stone Pilot]

For me this movie became a huge revelation about the inspirations of developers of "Fallout" game series.
In fact, it looks like every "Fallout" game is the interesting variation of the sequel for "Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb". There's no any real sequels in the cinema world, but we have some kind of continuation in the virtuality. And that's really great, I want to suppose!
Just wanted to know, how many of you, Sole Survivors, also find this fact amazing.

Thank you! :)

[Morrandir]

yup, even have it on DVD :)

[Warren]

I may have heard something about it, and about the director too.

[paugus]

Not to be pointlessly contrary, but I was not a huge fan of Dr. Strangelove and it doesn't evoke any of the same things Fallout does. :\ Only way I can relate them is atomic weaponry.

[Morrandir]

iconic scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA

[Incunabulum]

I've seen Strangelove, and yes its a great movie. I don't see the connection to Fallout though.

[=[T$CElite]= Mr. House]

Fallout references the film in the form of the "Atomic Wrangler" with the cowbow referencing a certain moment from the movie.

[Thanatos]

If you have not seen it then i pity you.

[mbpoblet]

"Mein Führer...! I can walk!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9ihKq34Ozc
But, yeah, vaults (and I could easily see Strangelove as director of Vault-Tec...). :D

(Also, so much Peter Sellers, and yet somehow not enough...)

And not Fallout related, but "Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!" is probably one of the best sentences ever said in a movie. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAeqVGP-GPM

[Menicus]

https://youtu.be/cAPLJRKyJLk

[SIlverblade-T-E]

actually it has several in inspirations not just that movie alone, far from it :)

thing is the USA DID get up to some really evil experiments on people and animals during the Cold War, go read up about it. Which gives background for the Vault-Tec experiments.

then you have the insane gung-ho arrogance, go look at lot of the bomb test films form te 1950s, ESPECIALLY the one where they get a female journalist to narrate one which supposedly shows that "the nuke wouldn't be that bad!"....her condescending attitudes, and the complete lies it tells make your teeth grate :P
several lies:
~One is the used a small fission weapon for the test, trying to show the damage wouldn't be so bad. what they didn't tell the audience is that thermonukes (hydrogen bombs) have vastly worse heat pulses than a fission bomb, so cause fires over a much bigger area

~the ranges were fiddled with, of course there's going ot be little damage FAR AWAY!

~real cities would go up in firestorms, absolutely everything flammable would burn. NOTHING like an empty desert with a few buildings etc so in those tests much of the heat was reflected straight back up, rather than absorbed by the complex geometry and materials of a city

~real cars, trucks, LPG tanks etc would be blown through the air, red hot at several hundred miles an hour, acting as huge fire bombs that would batter into buildings then ignite
While initial blast does put fires out, the entire area , air included is heated, the blast wave itself is hot, it starts out due to compression etc at around 900+C or more
So the initial heat pulse heats things hugely, the blast puts out any fires but bursts EVERYTHING short of the most massive and specially designed reinforced concrete.
So now you have a city wide swirl of material, all extremely hot
the blast wave is followed by another caused by the vacuum efffect going in reverse, this can occur several times with larger nukes. So, burning material gets scattered absolutely everywhere.
since everything is now hot and much is burning, it quickly grows into a firestorm, a giant hurricane of fire with 100+ mph winds sucking everything (including people) into the centre.

So nukes are much much worse than the official crap said back then, the USA censored the Hiroshima/Nagasaki facts and photogrpahs until 1990, to show how insane and corrupt it all was :( So the whole Cold War was fought based on complete GARBAGE, the real death toll and risks were catastophically worse than the loons predicted, because they ALWAYS used "best scenarios", they didnt want to admit their billion dollar/rouble systems were crap, bug ridden and couldn't stop ICBMs/SLBMs. Oh and the Russian's missiles were unstable as nitroglycerine and and their nukes could go off accidentally as well AND their local commanders could fire them wihtout higher authorization!!
The Russians eventually came up with a FAIL DEADLY system, if Moscow ever got destroyed by ANYTHING or anyone, they'd assume attack and go to full retaliatory launch....to bad if it was a meteor strike...and American assumption that a quick punch could take out their leadership didn't know about this rather important and troublesome fact.

The RAND Coporation did a lot of the game theory and special research for the US Cold War plans, but they were absolute raving aholes.
their Game Theory the Cold War was worked on, they tested on their secretaries, who "failed" it, in fact everyone except psychopaths and economists "failed" the test, because any sane person pulled back from brinkmanship with hydrogen bombs!
Seriously, go read up about it. Argh!!

britain ALSO lied out its arse about it's nuclear tests and screw ups, even worse than the USA (UK was world's 3rd worst secretive state, we were worse than Soveit Russia! only Albania and North Korea were worse than us).
See Sellafield for example or our first bomb test, which they said wasn't that bad for radiation...eh, funny how similar US test was dirty as hell, so bad it cancelled the entire test series (see the BAKER bomb test at bikini Atoll) as the fallout was catastrophic
Brits say "not so bad", but the US test showed, as was pointed out to the *stupids* at the top, would have killed 2 million people in New York if it had occured there, not from the rather low damage , but the incredible fallout.

So, lot of the crazy RL stuff that went on gives background for Fallout games ;)

[SIlverblade-T-E]

IIRC, the Permissive Action Link system came out before Dr Strangelove? in response to previous film of misuse of nukes.
P.A.L. are the complex password/counter systems so some idiot can't just detonated nukes when they want, they have to ger higher authority to give correct part of the pass

Actually US ended up giving that system to the Russians and it seems Pakistan, to prevent some nut using their nukes without permission, something their own leaders feared, as well.
does no one any good if some kook General could trigger World War 3 so sharing that security measure was a sane act.

[OH]

You could easly make that connection, and a connection to Blade Runner, and "I, Robot" by Isaac Asimov, and well the video game "Wasteland"..

[SIlverblade-T-E]

Also, "Planet of the Apes"
and kind of, to "Heiro's Journey" a novel which had a big impact on Dungeons & Dragons as well. it has some great sequences of travelling through the ruins of our nuked civilization, dead for 5000 years.

[OH]

Originally posted by SIlverblade-T-E:

Yeah those too.

[Warren]

Originally posted by Spookster:

You could easly make that connection, and a connection to Blade Runner, and "I, Robot" by Isaac Asimov, and well the video game "Wasteland"..

Do you really know the FIRST Wasteland game?