Decorating shelves issue

[bored gamer]

Are shelves glitched? I put some nuka cola on display and when I came back it clipped through the bottom and fell right through, anyway to prevent this? Also whats a good way to display books? (Not magazines) but all those random letters and books I picked up overtime, is there a way to display them like in skyrim? Thanks

[Marcy]

Did you carry the bottle onto the shelf, or did you use the Workshop to place it there by selecting it with your use key, and then placing it by pressing your use key again (just like building structures). I've found that if you do that instead of actually "putting down" the object by carrying it over there, it stays in place and it becomes a static object, rather than a dynamic, physics affected (AND GREEDY THIEF NPCS) object.

[bored gamer]

Originally posted by Marcy:

Did you carry the bottle onto the shelf, or did you use the Workshop to place it there by selecting it with your use key, and then placing it by pressing your use key again (just like building structures). I've found that if you do that instead of actually "putting down" the object by carrying it over there, it stays in place and it becomes a static object, rather than a dynamic, physics affected (AND GREEDY THIEF NPCS) object.

I used the workshop to place the bottles, dropped then picked up in worksop mode. It still fell through though, it's happening to more things that i've placed down too. Not only on shelves but tables too

[Marcy]

Huh, that's odd. I can't vouch for the shelves, but it shouldn't be happening with tables. I know it's not for me. Or I might've missed it.

Either way it doesn't seem right. It could be a bug! Or maybe just glitchy physics, despite the object being "static".

[weltall_elite]

FO:NV had this thing where if you picked up one item on, say a kitchen counter, everything else would shift on the counter. They never did fix it. It was a minor thing, but sometimes things fall through the map because of it.

[bored gamer]

Yeah, it's just frustrating :/ also the worst is when I made a house for myself but now all the npc settlers come in and sleep in my bed :'(

[Marcy]

Originally posted by SeaKraken:

Yeah, it's just frustrating :/ also the worst is when I made a house for myself but now all the npc settlers come in and sleep in my bed :'(

You can solve that issue by physically assigning beds for settlers, or placing a doorway inside your base by tricking the game, using the console to do so. It breaks pathfinding inside your house. You might encounter a stuck npc every now and then if you wait, sleep, or fast travel back, but I found it useful to keep settlers out of my "office" completely. Plus, it creates a nice, cosy and homey look with actual separate rooms!

[Ghostpro71]

We need a mod that makes object static and locks them wherever you place them, just like in NV.

[bored gamer]

Originally posted by Marcy:

Originally posted by SeaKraken:

Yeah, it's just frustrating :/ also the worst is when I made a house for myself but now all the npc settlers come in and sleep in my bed :'(

You can solve that issue by physically assigning beds for settlers, or placing a doorway inside your base by tricking the game, using the console to do so. It breaks pathfinding inside your house. You might encounter a stuck npc every now and then if you wait, sleep, or fast travel back, but I found it useful to keep settlers out of my "office" completely. Plus, it creates a nice, cosy and homey look with actual separate rooms!

Oh thats good to know, thanks, I've actually customized the wanderers pre-war house in sanctuary instead of making my own, i'm a fan of pre built rooms so I just decorate whats in them and such

[Kailen]

It's a limitation of the engine. It can't really handle placed objects all that well, so they end up scattering if you leave and come back. I think it's trying to place them CLOSE to where you put 'em, but it creates collisions which causes things phase through or go flying.

You can see it happen a lot with Magazine Racks too. I had decorated a few areas for my settlement, including a bar area... I came back later, I found SOME of it laying around, but the rest was just gone.

[El Pane]

When I try to place things on, e.g., bottom of shelf it automaticaly snaps on the top. Is there a way to get around this?

[mfree]

Originally posted by Kailen:

It's a limitation of the engine. It can't really handle placed objects all that well, so they end up scattering if you leave and come back. I think it's trying to place them CLOSE to where you put 'em, but it creates collisions which causes things phase through or go flying.

You can see it happen a lot with Magazine Racks too. I had decorated a few areas for my settlement, including a bar area... I came back later, I found SOME of it laying around, but the rest was just gone.

DOGMEAT!!! I TOLD YOU TO STOP PLAYING WITH THE MAGAZINE RACKS!!!

(just kidding )

[AsG_Alligator]

Originally posted by thpy_Labiamajora:

When I try to place things on, e.g., bottom of shelf it automaticaly snaps on the top. Is there a way to get around this?

Mods like place everywhere seem to be the only way to counter that.

As for placing objects: try OCDecorator mod

[Beautiful Ham Sandwich]

Originally posted by joejccva71:

We need a mod that makes object static and locks them wherever you place them, just like in NV.

We have that already, it's called OCDecorator.

There's also a mod you might like, SeaKraken. If you don't mind modding, there's one called Do It Yourshelf. Adds a bunch of premade shelf interiors that snap into shelves so you can decorate them without hassle. Either that, or OCDecorator would be the best solution