population of the US in 2277?

[Bard_13]

What do you guys think? By 2077 the world would be reaching 10 billion in population. The US would have an estimated population of about 500 million. We assume that most deaths and massive population decline in the US happened during October 23 2077 and days, months and years after that; there would be a sustainable point where the population of post-apocolyptic america would be stable(not as much deaths)- in the 2200's.

I say the number is 25,000,000 which would represent a 95% decline compared to the possible US population before the bombs fell.

Anybody else have something similar or completely different? I always think about population size of humans that remain in these types of games. Adds to the atmosphere.

[OH]

I really love how analytical this fandom-thing is, it's incredible.

[Vain]

Originally posted by AtomicFire AMERICA'S PSYCHO:

At the rate were goining we might actually all die in 2077.....How ironic would it be Fallout turned out to be true and more accurate then the bible... To many humans not enough space, and resources to go arround.....Every human needs at least 1billion litters of water in there life time....and the average human american eats about 300 pounds with of food a day. If it every country ate like the USA we wouild all die with in 2 weeks.

so you are saying one American eats 300 pounds a day. Bulls**t.

[Bard_13]

Originally posted by Krister:

I really love how analytical this fandom-thing is, it's incredible.

I think people naturally think about these sorts of things with games/books/tv series etcc.

[Bard_13]

Originally posted by AtomicFire AMERICA'S PSYCHO:

At the rate were goining we might actually all die in 2077.....How ironic would it be Fallout turned out to be true and more accurate then the bible... To many humans not enough space, and resources to go around.....Every human needs at least 1billion litters of water in there life time....and the average human american eats about 300 pounds of food a day. If it every country ate like the USA we wouild all die with in 2 weeks.

I think you meant a year.

[Vain]

Originally posted by AtomicFire AMERICA'S PSYCHO:

Originally posted by TheBigBearBoy:

so you are saying one American eats 300 pounds a day. Bulls**t. More USA hate.

Name one country that eats more than USA..

That still doesn't mean one American eats 300 pounds a day.

[Bard_13]

25,000,000.

[Master Zone]

by 2070 the USA will only raise from 314mil to about maybe 380mil, at most 400mil... It is only Africa, China and India that are exploding in population. Back in the early 1900's both the USA, China and India sat at around 100mil pop, but USA only raised to about 314mil, while China and India both raised to over 1 billion. Hell, not even Europe has reached 1 billion population yet.

Bring China's and India's population down to USA's population, and Africa's population down to Europes population, then we have shaved off almost 2 billion population.

There is no over population problem, there is only a China, Africa and India problem.

[Bard_13]

Originally posted by Master Zone:

by 2070 the USA will only raise from 314mil to about maybe 3080mil... It is only Africa, China and India that are exploding in population. Back in the early 1900's both the USA, China and India sat at around 100mil pop, but USA only raised to about 314miol, while China and India both raised to over 1 billion.

There is no over population problem in the US, there is only China, Africa and India problem.

You're right on China, India and especailly Africa which will have 4 billion inhabitents by 2100.

However, the US will grow because it needs immigrants and a growing population size to strengthen the economy.

[Vain]

Originally posted by AtomicFire AMERICA'S PSYCHO:

Originally posted by TheBigBearBoy:

That still doesn't mean one American eats 300 pounds a day.

Ok 100 pounds a day.

Go back to school.

[Master Zone]

Originally posted by Bard_13:

Originally posted by Master Zone:

by 2070 the USA will only raise from 314mil to about maybe 3080mil... It is only Africa, China and India that are exploding in population. Back in the early 1900's both the USA, China and India sat at around 100mil pop, but USA only raised to about 314miol, while China and India both raised to over 1 billion.

There is no over population problem in the US, there is only China, Africa and India problem.

You're right on China, India and especailly Africa which will have 4 billion inhabitents by 2100.

However, the US will grow because it needs immigrants and a growing population size to strengthen the economy.

Yeah, but 500mil by 2070 is a bit much. But who knows, maybe it works differently in the Fallout universe.

[Bansheebutt]

Edit: I deleted my post after thinking I thought this thread was about the real world :/

Originally posted by Bard_13:

days, months and years after that; there would be a sustainable point where the population of post-apocolyptic america would be stable(not as much deaths)- in the 2200's.

Background radiation levels reached tolerable levels by January 2078, at least in Zion.

Humanity returned to Subsistence by 2095, seeing as The Hub started up around that time. Which wasn't even the first post-war settlement.

I would thus think major population growth began a lot sooner than 2200.
Even more so when you think about how the NCR was well-established by that time.

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Timeline

[Devious]

Originally posted by TheBigBearBoy:

Originally posted by AtomicFire AMERICA'S PSYCHO:

Name one country that eats more than USA..

That still doesn't mean one American eats 300 pounds a day.

Saudi Arabia has a higher rate of obesity.
You're better off just ignoring him, believe me.

Anyway, NCR population during the events of New Vegas is roughly 700,000, and that's probably the largest human concentration left in North America. The rest of the US has been laid to waste, and Canada probably still is a NCR trooper's dream. I'd say the total number in the US would be much less than 25,000,000, perhaps 5-10% of that.

[DarkestLight]

Originally posted by AtomicFire AMERICA'S PSYCHO:

Originally posted by TheBigBearBoy:

That still doesn't mean one American eats 300 pounds a day.

Ok 100 pounds a day.

Try 5-6 pounds a day average... No human could come close to eating 100 pounds a day. Someone would quite literally die if they tried to force themselves to eat that much, although it's much more likely that they would simply be unable to eat that much and stop eating (and then start throwing up).

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by AtomicFire AMERICA'S PSYCHO:

At the rate were goining we might actually all die in 2077.....How ironic would it be Fallout turned out to be true and more accurate then the bible... To many humans not enough space, and resources to go around.....Every human needs at least 1billion litters of water in there life time....and the average human american eats about 300 pounds of food a day. If it every country ate like the USA we wouild all die with in 2 weeks.

You are . . . so far off from reality that you're not even wrong.

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by AtomicFire AMERICA'S PSYCHO:

Originally posted by TheBigBearBoy:

so you are saying one American eats 300 pounds a day. Bulls**t. More USA hate.

Name one country that eats more than USA..

Canada, Mexico, Great Britain . . .