120,000 people are playing F4 right now but the game is broken?

[Typha]

All I see in this forum is how broken the game is... It doesn't start, it doesn't run, it crashes, it's unplayable. It's "declared a failure".

More people are playing this game than Helldivers 2 right now.

I understand there are issues but.... How are these 120,000 playing since the game is catastrophe and all?

[VastEnemy]

Its not, they're playing it fine. The vast majority of people here, are upset that 5% of the total mod selection, (If that) are temporarily unavailable. Until the script extender plugin, that these mods requires, is updated for the newest version of the game. Its entitlement, extreme entitlement.

However, there are some legitimate issues with people experiencing terrible crashing, locked frame rates, long load times, and ultra wide support issues. Sadly, most of them are being overshadowed by the mod related problems, which were totally foreseeable and avoidable.

[maestro]

Steam considers you "playing" the game if you have the launcher open.

I wonder how many people "playing" the game are constantly fiddling with their launchers trying to get the damn thing to work.

[Rommel]

Originally posted by maestro:

Steam considers you "playing" the game if you have the launcher open.

I wonder how many people "playing" the game are constantly fiddling with their launchers trying to get the damn thing to work.

Oh man that's a reach lol!

[Typha]

Originally posted by maestro:

Steam considers you "playing" the game if you have the launcher open.

I wonder how many people "playing" the game are constantly fiddling with their launchers trying to get the damn thing to work.

Not many at all, relative to people actually playing I'm sure.

[Longhaul]

Out of those 120,000.... 100,000 didn't update!

This update is is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trash, for modded and vanilla alike.

[Sparhawk122]

They are playing it locked at 60 FPS and weapon debris turned off.

Turning off the weapon debris stops the crashing. And playing it at 60 and no higher ensures the game does not break from a higher FPS playing havoc on the physics engine.

Doing those two things above make the game playable.

However unless you use the mod to improve load times most will be stuck with long loading times when exiting interior locations. And the ultrawide resolutions have the UI not scaling. But the game is still playable. However in my opinion a new gen update should have fixed all of the above issues and more. It should have also improved textures, shadows and added things like DLSS and ray tracing. Actual new gen features.

Bethesda are lazy, incompetent and apologists only ensure their future products will be even worse because they know they can get away with being lazy. Be prepared for TES 6 to be worse then Starfield.

Also many probably turned off auto updates to preserve their mods.

[Typha]

Originally posted by Longhaul:

Out of those 120,000.... 100,000 didn't update!

This update is is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trash, for modded and vanilla alike.

I'm playing Vanilla and the update is fine. I don't really notice any difference. Why is it trash for me?

[Sparhawk122]

Originally posted by Typha Latifolia:

Originally posted by Longhaul:

Out of those 120,000.... 100,000 didn't update!

This update is is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trash, for modded and vanilla alike.

I'm playing Vanilla and the update is fine. I don't really notice any difference. Why is it trash for me?

If you don't notice any difference then the update is not a good new gen update is it lol.

[Typha]

Originally posted by Sparhawk122:

They are playing it locked at 60 FPS and weapon debris turned off.

Turning off the weapon debris stops the crashing. And playing it at 60 and no higher ensures the game does not break from a higher FPS playing havoc on the physics engine.

Doing those two things above make the game playable.

However unless you use the mod to improve load times most will be stuck with long loading times when exiting interior locations. And the ultrawide resolutions have the UI not scaling. But the game is still playable. However in my opinion a new gen update should have fixed all of the above issues and more. It should have also improved textures, shadows and added things like DLSS and ray tracing. Actual new gen features.

Bethesda are lazy, incompetent and apologists only ensure their future products will be even worse because they know they can get away with being lazy. Be prepared for TES 6 to be worse then Starfield.

Also many probably turned off auto updates to preserve their mods.

Load times aren't that long for me. Maybe 10-15 seconds?

[Emphoise]

Originally posted by Typha Latifolia:

All I see in this forum is how broken the game is... It doesn't start, it doesn't run, it crashes, it's unplayable. It's "declared a failure".

More people are playing this game than Helldivers 2 right now.

I understand there are issues but.... How are these 120,000 playing since the game is catastrophe and all?

The game is running just like it did before, update didnt change anything and kept the old bugs.

Many new players got jebaited by the series and the "update". They are experiencing the Fps speed thing, resolutions problems and broken loading times for the first time, thats why the trafic and amount of complaints is very high.

[Emphoise]

Originally posted by Typha Latifolia:

Load times aren't that long for me. Maybe 10-15 seconds?

Thats stupidely high for an ancient game. Try this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10283?tab=description

It still works

[sdack]

This is just your limited view, sorry. The game runs quite well and without issues. There are and always will be some who have problems. It is unavoidable. The people who come to the forum are those with limited PC skills, who are overwhelmed or confused by an issue, or just hoping for a quick fix, a silver bullet.

Most common things I have seen with people is that they do not even know where to look for help or where to find certain options on their PC. Just telling them to change driver settings can fall on deaf ears, because they have no idea what those settings are. Same with telling people to check their controlled folder access and they do not know what this is or where to find it. Most of these things are not major problems. People with PC skills can easily overcome these issues.

Then there are people with a messy Windows installation, outdated drivers, a faulty component, or hardware so new it still needs a BIOS update, etc.. These people are in the minority but with 100,000 people playing will you still find hundreds of them.

Here some info and pointers and the most common issues:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/4364626348100218422/#c4364626348100326950

[Kevlar]

I can't even leave the house at the beginning of the game without crashing so yes., the game is broken.

[Starke Raven]

I updated, and it works perfect for me. On PC with no mods. However, I had to adjust a few things. Point being. It works, for some of us. I'm sorry for those who can't get it going, because I know how that feels too.
I was further in the game than I ever got, this last time. I was level 91 and I had my own army at the GNN HQ. I was REALLY getting into it. And the Update hit. So... Yeah. That hurt.
And let me just say this about the Fanboi thing. I have 8.4k hours into Fallout 4. Most of it has been played with mods because Vanilla sux. Also, I have never been able to get as far as I would like because the longer you play, the worse it gets until you're forced to quit and start completely over from scratch. So. I have not been a Fanboi. I have simply been trying all these hours, which incidentally, almost add up to a year of play time, to complete all the goals in the game. And I still have not accomplished my goals. Definitely not a Fanboi, simply a Player.
It's a good thing I'm already old and have accomplished my RL goals or I'd be depressed over all the wasted play time.

Edited: I've been posting screenshots in public as I play. Anyone who wants to see them can go look at them in my profile.

[Bovven Ammer]

No - i can't (or wan't) play it and i never use(d) mods.
The game is broken for many players eg. player with powerfull pc's have extremly long loadingscreens (2-3 min to enter or leave any room), or even are not able to start the game at all and so on.
Older pc's have much less of these problems, so you have a lot of potential player worldwide.
I personally waited for this update only for simple bugfixes, but i get only new ones like playing the german version and have now a language mix of german and english.