Installing the 'new' fallout 4 on a different drive.

[mikersvl]

Saw all the problems running the last update with old saves (concerning mods). Right now my game is on drive D (drive C is to small). If I install Fallout 4 on drive E, will it be a completely separate game with none of my old mods attached? (All three are separate drives.)
And I'm back again.
Just installed from GOG, to E drive. Started the game from their library. My old STEAM saves that are on drive D were listed. Not interested in them.
Choosing "new game" in steam only created a game with old mods.
Opened FO4 by clicking on my E drive and going to GAMES folder in the GOG (GOTY folder). Opened "fallout 4 launcher EXE", But my controller wouldn't function.
Next I opened "fallout 4 EXE" (as admn). Got exactly what I wanted,, An un-modded game.

So thanks guys for all of the suggestions. I couldn't have done it without ya's.

Now, 3 days later, all of the mods that were on STEAM drive D, have migrated to GOG drive E. Even though I had unsubscribed them at the Bethesda website. Which (I guess) is caused by the registry problem mentioned earlier. Fixing the registry is beyond my capabilities. I hate to loose everything I've done so far; but it looks like a manual delete is my only option.

[kdodds]

You can not have multiple versions of the same game on different drives with Steam (or Windows Registry, actually). You'd really have to engage in some funkiness to overcome this, I think. Not worth it IMO. Play the old or play the new, don't try to run both. Now, to the mod question part, that's what Profiles in Mod Managers are for. You're using a mod manager, right?

[mikersvl]

Originally posted by kdodds:

You can not have multiple versions of the same game on different drives with Steam (or Windows Registry, actually). You'd really have to engage in some funkiness to overcome this, I think. Not worth it IMO. Play the old or play the new, don't try to run both. Now, to the mod question part, that's what Profiles in Mod Managers are for. You're using a mod manager, right?

Thank you. I figured as much, But you know what I was hoping for. Oh well.

[_KC76_]

You can have multiple copies of Fallout, but you can not "install" them from Steam .. You need to copy and paste them, so the Installer does not mess with your windows registry.

An alternative option would be to buy the game on GOG to get access to the old version, and then install the new version here from Steam.

[kdodds]

Originally posted by _KC76_:

You can have multiple copies of Fallout, but you can not "install" them from Steam .. You need to copy and paste them, so the Installer does not mess with your windows registry.

An alternative option would be to buy the game on GOG to get access to the old version, and then install the new version here from Steam.

I don't know if FO4 is treated the same way or not, but you can not have independent copies of 3 or NV from Steam and GOG simultaneously installed. Well, not through traditional installation anyway. One will overwrite the other's registry entries when installed. I tried to work around this when trying to keep independent 3/NV installs while simultaneously running a TTW install. You would need to manually create the registry keys or rewrite the installer packages.

[tattooguy35fallout]

lucky i would kill for a three or four drive lol more room for ♥♥♥♥ load of games

[mikersvl]

Originally posted by _KC76_:

You can have multiple copies of Fallout, but you can not "install" them from Steam .. You need to copy and paste them, so the Installer does not mess with your windows registry.

An alternative option would be to buy the game on GOG to get access to the old version, and then install the new version here from Steam.

I still have my installation disk, nine years old. But it will only take me to STEAM to install.
Don't know GOG. Will check.

[_KC76_]

Originally posted by kdodds:

Originally posted by _KC76_:

You can have multiple copies of Fallout, but you can not "install" them from Steam .. You need to copy and paste them, so the Installer does not mess with your windows registry.

An alternative option would be to buy the game on GOG to get access to the old version, and then install the new version here from Steam.

I don't know if FO4 is treated the same way or not, but you can not have independent copies of 3 or NV from Steam and GOG simultaneously installed. Well, not through traditional installation anyway. One will overwrite the other's registry entries when installed. I tried to work around this when trying to keep independent 3/NV installs while simultaneously running a TTW install. You would need to manually create the registry keys or rewrite the installer packages.

Your key word "INSTALLED"
Re-read what I wrote.

[_KC76_]

1. Install the GOG version.
2. Copy the GOG version.
3. Paste the GOG version to some other location.
4. "Uninstall" the "Installed" version from GOG, leaving the "Pasted" version else-where.
5. Install Steam version of updated FO4 as normal.

[mikersvl]

Originally posted by mikersvl:

Originally posted by _KC76_:

You can have multiple copies of Fallout, but you can not "install" them from Steam .. You need to copy and paste them, so the Installer does not mess with your windows registry.

An alternative option would be to buy the game on GOG to get access to the old version, and then install the new version here from Steam.

I still have my installation disk, nine years old. But it will only take me to STEAM to install.
Don't know GOG. Will check.

$39.00 But, is it a separate install, not using STEAM?

[mikersvl]

Originally posted by mikersvl:

Originally posted by mikersvl:

I still have my installation disk, nine years old. But it will only take me to STEAM to install.
Don't know GOG. Will check.

$39.00 But, is it a separate install, not using STEAM?

Didn't see KC's response till mow.

[mikersvl]

Originally posted by _KC76_:

1. Install the GOG version.
2. Copy the GOG version.
3. Paste the GOG version to some other location.
4. "Uninstall" the "Installed" version from GOG, leaving the "Pasted" version else-where.
5. Install Steam version of updated FO4 as normal.

Not sure I understand. Why not simply play the GOG version (un-modded) on drive E,,, and leave the STEAM (modded) version on D alone. (gotta go have a smoke... Later}

[mikersvl]

Originally posted by mikersvl:

Saw all the problems running the last update with old saves (concerning mods). Right now my game is on drive D (drive C is to small). If I install Fallout 4 on drive E, will it be a completely separate game with none of my old mods attached? (All three are separate drives.)

Found this.

Copilot
When installing the same program on two different external drives, there shouldn’t be any inherent conflict. However, it’s essential to consider a few factors to ensure smooth operation:

Drive Letters: If both external drives are connected to the same computer, make sure they have different drive letters (e.g., one is assigned as “E:” and the other as “F:”). This way, the operating system can distinguish between them.
Installation Paths: During installation, choose different installation paths for the program on each drive. Most software installers allow you to specify the installation directory. For example:
Drive 1 (E:): E:\Programs\YourSoftware
Drive 2 (F:): F:\Programs\YourSoftware
Registry Entries: Some programs create registry entries during installation. These entries store configuration settings and other information. When you install the same program on two drives, ensure that the registry entries don’t conflict. Most modern software handles this well, but it’s still a good practice to verify.
Dependencies: If the program relies on specific libraries or components (DLL files, shared resources, etc.), ensure that these dependencies are correctly installed on both drives. Otherwise, the program may not function correctly.
Updates and Patches: When updating the program, apply the updates to both installations. Sometimes updates fix compatibility issues or security vulnerabilities.
Remember that the program itself doesn’t inherently conflict when installed on multiple drives. It’s the system configuration and management that matter. If you encounter any issues, check the points mentioned above and adjust accordingly. 😊

[kdodds]

Originally posted by _KC76_:

Originally posted by kdodds:

I don't know if FO4 is treated the same way or not, but you can not have independent copies of 3 or NV from Steam and GOG simultaneously installed. Well, not through traditional installation anyway. One will overwrite the other's registry entries when installed. I tried to work around this when trying to keep independent 3/NV installs while simultaneously running a TTW install. You would need to manually create the registry keys or rewrite the installer packages.

Your key word "INSTALLED"
Re-read what I wrote.

I know what you wrote, reread what I wrote. The registry entries are likely still necessary, copying from one folder to another is not enough, you'd have to manually create the needed registry entries. This isn't DOS any more. Games typically hook in to the OS. Otherwise, whether you run from GOG or Steam, it will still try to load from wherever the WinReg says. I've been through this before, though not with FO4. If it works, great, but FO3 and NV don't. And people should be aware, before re-purchasing from another store, that it might not work as intended. Most people are not capable of manual regedit insertions. And even if they are, it can still be a tricky proposition. If it's just save locations, woohoo, you're golden and can swap saves across both if you wanted to. If it's more than that...

[_KC76_]

Originally posted by kdodds:

Originally posted by _KC76_:

Your key word "INSTALLED"
Re-read what I wrote.

I know what you wrote, reread what I wrote. The registry entries are likely still necessary, copying from one folder to another is not enough, you'd have to manually create the needed registry entries. This isn't DOS any more. Games typically hook in to the OS. Otherwise, whether you run from GOG or Steam, it will still try to load from wherever the WinReg says. I've been through this before, though not with FO4. If it works, great, but FO3 and NV don't. And people should be aware, before re-purchasing from another store, that it might not work as intended. Most people are not capable of manual regedit insertions. And even if they are, it can still be a tricky proposition. If it's just save locations, woohoo, you're golden and can swap saves across both if you wanted to. If it's more than that...

See, there is your problem, you are expecting to be able to use the "play" button in Steam or GOG's service .. Nope, you create a shortcut to the Game Launcher for the GOG version, which does not require online authentication. You need no hooks to the OS, just the ability to right click.

[_KC76_]

Originally posted by mikersvl:

Originally posted by _KC76_:

1. Install the GOG version.
2. Copy the GOG version.
3. Paste the GOG version to some other location.
4. "Uninstall" the "Installed" version from GOG, leaving the "Pasted" version else-where.
5. Install Steam version of updated FO4 as normal.

Not sure I understand. Why not simply play the GOG version (un-modded) on drive E,,, and leave the STEAM (modded) version on D alone. (gotta go have a smoke... Later}

You have it reversed. You use the GOG version offline, and for modding, and use the new updated Steam version online for Vanilla.