how much charisma do you need for dialogue to success>?

[Adam Jensen 007]

I fail them 95% of time

[Langkard]

I succeed more than not with 4 charisma plus one of things like black-rimmed glasses or a Trilby hat. Grape mentats are a huge help, and the ingredients are fairly common: mentats, hubflower, whiskey and mixed at a chem station.

[PeaceMaker]

Charisma is not always a guarantee of success. I there's some kind of RNG thrown in. I once took max charisma so I could get into vault 81 without having to search for fusion cores, but it still didn't work.

And to be honest it should not always succeed. Charisma is no guarantee of success with anyone in reality, no matter how high it may be and I like that it's the same in game.

However, you can take a few personality drugs that might help you be more successful.

[steventirey]

It can always succeed. You should not be failing any Speech check if your Charisma is 11 or more. And regardless of how bad your Charisma is, you always have a chance to succeed even on the most difficult Speech check.

Charisma is not always a guarantee of success. I there's some kind of RNG thrown in. I once took max charisma so I could get into vault 81 without having to search for fusion cores, but it still didn't work.

Charisma determines the base chance to succeed, with then is randomly determined. But because of how the formula is set up, you can indeed succeed at 100% of the checks all of the time. A Charisma of 11 gives a base chance to succeed of 165%, and the most difficult Speech checks lower that chance by 65%, leaving a 100% chance to succeed.

[Zes]

I heard that 11 is guaranteed to pass every speech check, but never tried myself.

I usually pass yellows with 3, and some oranges with 6 but not reds.. 10 fails on red sometimes.. very rarely.

[veryinky]

Chance to Succeed=Charisma*15%-Speech Check Difficulty Modifier

Difficulty Level
Yellow -35%
Orange -50%
Red -65%

Example; 6 charisma character (for local leader perks)
Yellow 55%
Orange 40%
Red 25%

9 charisma (wear a +1 CHA hat and +2 CHA suit as a 6 CHA character)
Yellow 100%
Orange 85%
Red 70%

Lady Killer/Black Widow gives situational +10% chance to opposite sex.

There's a magazine (scav 1) in nuka world that gives +10 chance to all.

[Stardustfire]

10 can fail red ones, even 11 (very rare) , save boarder for me where i never seen a fail was 12+

start with 10, get hungry/thirsty in survival when building in sanctuary, when char is debuffed below 10 consume "you are special" for +1 C , eat/drink, permanent 11, destroyer helm from covenant and we reached 12, later teh bobblehead and we have 13...

[Shahadem]

Bethesda gives everything a minimum 5% fail rate.

From charisma checks to pick pocketing to VATS. You will always have at least a 5% minimum fail chance.

[worm_master]

Lol it's all meaningless actually, you can succeed red check's with virtually no charisma, if u dont mind spending possible H's spinning the RNG.

[Adam Jensen 007]

I guess power armor lowers charsima as well?

[worm_master]

Originally posted by Adam Jensen 007:

I guess power armor lowers charsima as well?

Yes an No, If u take ya helmet off apparently it dosnt, also u can paint ya PA that increases ya Char, so no it dosnt neither

[Lucus]

Originally posted by Adam Jensen 007:

I guess power armor lowers charsima as well?

normal armor/clothing stat boosts don't apply in power armor, the only exception is if you enter power armor that doesn't have a helmet the stat boosts from the head and eye slots will apply and the items that give those boosts will be rendered.

note that entering power armor and unequipping the PA helmet will not retroactively apply the stat boosts, you will need to exit and re-enter the PA.