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rasx Apr 30, 2016 @ 12:50am
Reason for V.A.N.S. Perk
This is just a theory of mine. The reason they included the nearly useless perk of V.A.N.S. was so, when they released the perk tree prior to game release, people would fairly assume that it would be a driving perk. Bethesda did this so they could build hype and get people to pre-order. This is all speculation, but I'd be surprised if this wasn't what they planned by adding this perk.

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Yhwach Apr 30, 2016 @ 12:52am 
V.A.N.S was made useless on purpose, so that people like you, or anyone else would speculate its true purpose and wonder why it even exists.
That's why it exists.
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Futures Apr 30, 2016 @ 1:18am 
It's the same case as that spell in Skyrim, they made it for the people who don't exactly know how to play these types of games and get lost easy so they can be pointed the right way.

It's "useless" to people like us who play these kinds of game all the time but not to new inexperienced players.
AikenAidan Apr 30, 2016 @ 1:24am 
The Survival Mode will eliminat a few other perks [not actually remove them just make them useless] Like the 'Fast Travel while Overloaded' perk. Survival does not have Fast travel.
Originally posted by Moonlight City Drive:
It's the same case as that spell in Skyrim, they made it for the people who don't exactly know how to play these types of games and get lost easy so they can be pointed the right way.

Or for people like me who try to take the most direct route, which generally leads over rough terrain that requires either exploiting the collusion that's been around since Morrowind...

...or try that, fail, and need a hand getting the shortest indirect route. :P
Nite69 Apr 30, 2016 @ 1:28am 
its more of a joke perk, is a reason they added it to Level 1 intelligence :P
rasx Apr 30, 2016 @ 1:30am 
That's not my point. My point is that they made the perk design as the pip boy sitting on a van to try and make people think that it was a driving perk and that Fallout 4 would include driving.
Yhwach Apr 30, 2016 @ 1:31am 
Originally posted by rasx:
That's not my point. My point is that they made the perk design as the pip boy sitting on a van to try and make people think that it was a driving perk and that Fallout 4 would include driving.
A lot of people actually thought it meant that, I didn't buy into it and thought it was some sort of navigation perk that helps you get to areas; I highly doubt bethesda would ever add driving in gamebryo.
Originally posted by rasx:
That's not my point. My point is that they made the perk design as the pip boy sitting on a van to try and make people think that it was a driving perk and that Fallout 4 would include driving.

Or, you know, it could be because the abbreviation for Vault-Tec Assisted Navigation System is V.A.N.S. and it's an amusing joke.
AikenAidan Apr 30, 2016 @ 1:43am 
Originally posted by rasx:
That's not my point. My point is that they made the perk design as the pip boy sitting on a van to try and make people think that it was a driving perk and that Fallout 4 would include driving.

If you go by just the Image then yes I see your point , But I took the time to read what is ment and thought is was vary misleading as well and rather useless. Like a few other perks that use to have Negative resuts if you used them like being a Canibal made people shun you.

Just for haha's I intend to raise 1 toon to a level where I can get all the perks just to see what game play would be like [have 1 toon at L136 lots of perks to go]
GM Pax Apr 30, 2016 @ 2:13am 
Originally posted by Moonlight City Drive:
It's the same case as that spell in Skyrim, they made it for the people who don't exactly know how to play these types of games and get lost easy so they can be pointed the right way.
Exactly so. It's a "this game is cool but I suck, please make me not suck so badly so I can keep having fun" perk.

My housemate would get lost in the player's pre-War house. Within seconds. No, I'm not kidding you - she herself will tell you she is "directionally challenged". You have NO IDEA how thrilled she was to discover how her iPhone 5C's GPS-and-map functions worked. :D

And ... V.A.N.S. was made for people like her (well, except she's not a first-person-shooter fan, nor a Fallout fan, so .... anyway, you get the idea).
GM Pax Apr 30, 2016 @ 2:15am 
Originally posted by rasx:
[...] I'd be surprised if this wasn't what they planned by adding this perk.

Word of advice for you - your whole life will be improved by learning it by heart:

Never attribute to malice, what can be adequately explained by simple human stupidity.

"Vault-Assisted Navigation System" gives the acronym "VANS" ... Vans ... "Hey let's put the Pip-boy on a van, that'll be a silly-funny icon!" .... and not a thought given to "players will expect to drive cars now".
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