Raider Settlement Food issues, spoilers. Need information!

[Locklave]

I got 5 raider settlements and 9 providing for them yet they are complaining about food issues.

Did the base population of the providing settlement matter? Because you can't increase it or fix anything after you force them to provide for you. Should I have built it up before bringing them under my raiders control?

[Swiftknife666]

I too would love to know if anything you do with the vassal settlement beforehand will effect how much it produces for the tied raider settlement. Like if i just turn Nordhagen into a forest of Mutfruit and Tato's then assign everyone to food, will this effect how much is given to the raiders? Or is it just a set amount? If Nordhagen has 2 settlers and 2 Mutfruit plants and nothing else, will it provide an identicle amount?

[Locklave]

So I checked my pip boy and only 1 raider settlement has food/enough food(it only tells me every other location has shortagages so I have no clue how much is lacking or if any food is even reaching them).

[Swiftknife666]

I'm really struggling with the new mechanics. I Just don't want to continue with the raider settlements until i know for sure if anything done to the vassals before integration effects them. The fact you can not use them as a workshop after and your supply lines get cut is a pain on survival. I have not unlocked the tribute chest yet but would what they give also be subject to what the settlement has?

[Locklave]

Originally posted by Swiftknife666:

If Nordhagen has 2 settlers and 2 Mutfruit plants and nothing else, will it provide an identicle amount?

They did a terrible job in regards to explaining the mechanics, in that they didn't explain them at all. I literally have no clue if a settlement creating 180 food normally is giving as much as one producing 12. It seems counter intuitive but I have no way to confirm if there is any difference.

Originally posted by Swiftknife666:

I'm really struggling with the new mechanics. I Just don't want to continue with the raider settlements until i know for sure if anything done to the vassals before integration effects them. The fact you can not use them as a workshop after and your supply lines get cut is a pain on survival. I have not unlocked the tribute chest yet but would what they give also be subject to what the settlement has?

If you are will to use console commands you could fix the settlements after, in tgm you can hold v and force into the construction menu even without access to it. So it can be fixed if we find out population and production matters.

Till then I'm still at a total loss. There are no possible supply routes and materials are all connected without it, why is only one raider settlement getting food? I wish I knew.

[Locklave]

And suddenly they all have food but 1 location. wtf kinda system is this. I need information.

[titanopteryx]

Vassal settlements only feed raider settlements in range. If you hover the cursor over a raider settlement on the map, all of the settlements in range get a symbol on them.

That said, you can make raiders farm as long as you have enough happiness generating buildings. In one raider settlement I have 3 raider farmers producing 18 food. However I also have a booze still, a refreshment station, 4 shops, and 5 slot machines. So the happiness is 88 with an up arrow at the moment.

Aside from making 1 settlement a vassal as part of the quest, you don't really need to lose any more settlements than the 1. But I've seen vassal settlements on the list of potential settlements to make raider settlements. I haven't tried that but it might be possible to take that vassal settlement back as a raider settlement.

Has anyone tried doing that quest the Brotherhood gives you that transfers ownership of a settlement to the Brotherhood? I wonder what happens if you do that to a vassal settlement?

[Locklave]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Has anyone tried doing that quest the Brotherhood gives you that transfers ownership of a settlement to the Brotherhood? I wonder what happens if you do that to a vassal settlement?

That's one hell of a question, would be very interesting. That's a big conflict of interest.

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

I have 3 raider farmers producing 18 food

I refuse to make my raiders farm... They help me fight and do real work that makes me caps, I won't degrade them like that. Unlike settler scum, who only complain and say how they hope I'm not a synth here to spy on them or how I have a bad look about me... I SET UP THE SETTLEMENT YOU STUPID SETTLER! THAT'S MY VOICE ON THE DAMN RADIO THAT YOU FOLLOWED HERE! AND YES I DO HAVE A BAD LOOK ABOUT ME AND I AM HERE FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE SUPPORTING MY RAIDERS FROM NOW ON!

Settlers are cancer, Raiders are the cure for that cancer.

[Sythil]

If you have automatron dlc, it can be easily fixed, make some bots to farm and/or supply line.

[Locklave]

Originally posted by Sythil:

If you have automatron dlc, it can be easily fixed, make some bots to farm and/or supply line.

What the are you even talking about? There are no supply lines for raiders, the locations are already connected. Their supply system has nothing to do with supply lines.

Maybe try reading a thread before posting inane garbage?

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by Locklave:

Originally posted by Sythil:

If you have automatron dlc, it can be easily fixed, make some bots to farm and/or supply line.

What the are you even talking about? There are no supply lines for raiders, the locations are already connected. Their supply system has nothing to do with supply lines.

Maybe try reading a thread before posting inane garbage?

Making a supply line to a minuteman settlement from a raider settlement with a robot will cause each raider settlement have access to the resources available in your minuteman settlement network. I just tested it.

[Locklave]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Originally posted by Locklave:

What the are you even talking about? There are no supply lines for raiders, the locations are already connected. Their supply system has nothing to do with supply lines.

Maybe try reading a thread before posting inane garbage?

Making a supply line to a minuteman settlement from a raider settlement with a robot will cause each raider settlement have access to the resources available in your minuteman settlement network. I just tested it.

While this is interesting and possibly useful to some people it doesn't explain how the raider settlement system works. The point of the thread.

[Schizophrenic Fox]

I just noticed that when i show my supply lines on my raider settlements only 1 settlement is connected with another. I have no idea what this means. Im so lost in this update.

[Locklave]

Originally posted by MegaByte:

I just noticed that when i show my supply lines on my raider settlements only 1 settlement is connected with another. I have no idea what this means. Im so lost in this update.

Based on what I can tell their are no supply lines needed for Raider settlements, they are all just connected the second they are set up.

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by Locklave:

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Making a supply line to a minuteman settlement from a raider settlement with a robot will cause each raider settlement have access to the resources available in your minuteman settlement network. I just tested it.

While this is interesting and possibly useful to some people it doesn't explain how the raider settlement system works. The point of the thread.

From what I've gathered from playing for hours and setting up a network of raider outposts and vassals, here's what I've figured out.

When you take a settlement for raiders, the population is replaced by raiders which can do anything that normal settlers do but lose happiness when they farm. When you hover your cursor over a raider settlement on the map in your pipboy, every settlement within range of it will get a symbol on it. Make one of those settlements your vassal and it will send food to the raider settlement and I think it sends money to a chest in Nuka World, at your resturant house. However you lose control of the vassal.

Raider settlements can't have a caravan system connecting them but seem to share resources except food. Food is sent to the raider settlements by vassals, or you can place food in the workbench yourself. I believe water is shared.

Raider outposts get attacked but instead of raiders, it's by The Brotherhood or The Minutemen. If you're not hostile to those factions then the attackers won't be enemies of you, but will be attacked by your raiders and the turrets you set up in your settlement.

If you take 8 settlements for the raiders, you unlock a tribute chest. You have to assign a raider to it. Periodically it will fill with food, caps, weapons, armor, junk items, etc. It's similar to the chests in the parks in nuka world.

[LAZERFACE]

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