few questions about modding fo4

[karakan]

is vortex fully supported or do i need to get mod organizers, script extenders etc?

any must haves for crashing/bug fixing like fo3 and fonv?

[Lady Aeleanor]

I've got about 60 or so mods using Vortex. Works great. Download the Unofficial F4 patch. Fixes quite a lot. You only need Vortex or MO2. One or the other.

[EmilB]

usualy vortex is enough i just installed frost survival mod no other needed except vortex.

[Dave]

Vortex is a mod manager and although I use NMM mostly, Vortex is extremely competent, very fast and works very easily for even the greenest of modders. It links directly with Nexus so the downloads are found inn the same place, and you have full control on how it will work.

[karakan]

fo4 script extender is still a requirement right?

any tips on performance issues? quick google showed that some brainlet decided that shadow distance on medium is apparently extremely far. i turned shadow distance from ultra to medium and immediately gained 30 fps lol. any other tips like that ?

[karakan]

any must haves mod wise for first time player? top files on nexus arent that interesting

[SuperSledgeNY]

Originally posted by Nexures:

fo4 script extender is still a requirement right?

any tips on performance issues? quick google showed that some brainlet decided that shadow distance on medium is apparently extremely far

F4SE is a requirement ONLY if you install OTHER mods that require it such as Place Everywhere, LooksMenu, etc. By itself, F4SE does nothing.

The most important bit of advice I can give you is to READ READ READ the author's mod page as well as the posts and bugs tab on Nexus BEFORE you install ANY mod. Secondly, learn the game's file structure so you know exactly what the mod is changing in your game and where these changes occur. Otherwise, I can say with a very high degree of certainty that you will be back here at some point begging for help on fixing a game that you borked yourself.

From being on this forum since the game's initial relief, I can say with 100% confidence that the great majority of the issues posted can be avoided if players just READ.

[karakan]

Originally posted by SuperSledgeNY:

Originally posted by Nexures:

fo4 script extender is still a requirement right?

any tips on performance issues? quick google showed that some brainlet decided that shadow distance on medium is apparently extremely far

F4SE is a requirement ONLY if you install OTHER mods that require it such as Place Everywhere, LooksMenu, etc. By itself, F4SE does nothing.

The most important bit of advice I can give you is to READ READ READ the author's mod page as well as the posts and bugs tab on Nexus BEFORE you install ANY mod. Secondly, learn the game's file structure so you know exactly what the mod is changing in your game and where these changes occur. Otherwise, I can say with a very high degree of certainty that you will be back here at some point begging for help on fixing a game that you borked yourself.

From being on this forum since the game's initial relief, I can say with 100% confidence that the great majority of the issues posted can be avoided if players just READ.

oh ofc bro, thanks for the advice. but im well aware how to mod haha. ive been using mods for bethesda games since morrowind ! :P i was only curious about the typical "must haves" that bethesda games nearly always have. after oblivion, skyrim, fo3,fonv its quite funny seeing fo4 doesnt really have any mod requirements

[karakan]

ive never seen a bethesda game with such insignificant/nothing adding mods before :P

[kdodds]

At some point, you ARE going to need F4SE, so might as well just bite that bullet. You do not need MO2, but you SHOULD use a modern mod manager, so that would be Vortex or Mod Organizer. Vortex makes its deployments to the folder. So, if you backup the Falout 4 launcher and rename the F4SE launcher, you can play, direct from Steam, without ever loading VMM. MO2 is completely virtual and you have to run the game through MO2. Pick your poison.

You will probably need to Bash and Merge at some point, but these can be done in either mod manager (although MO2 handles things a little better).

As far as recommended mods and tutorials, well, here:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=935078716

[karakan]

Originally posted by kdodds:

At some point, you ARE going to need F4SE, so might as well just bite that bullet. You do not need MO2, but you SHOULD use a modern mod manager, so that would be Vortex or Mod Organizer. Vortex makes its deployments to the folder. So, if you backup the Falout 4 launcher and rename the F4SE launcher, you can play, direct from Steam, without ever loading VMM. MO2 is completely virtual and you have to run the game through MO2.

meh. launching from steam is insignificant. all mods work regardless if u run from steam, vortex, or from f4se.exe

thank you for your link, ill have a read. i just find it hilarious at how minor most, if not nearly all mods on nexus are for this game.

[tulle040657]

Originally posted by Nexures:

Originally posted by kdodds:

At some point, you ARE going to need F4SE, so might as well just bite that bullet. You do not need MO2, but you SHOULD use a modern mod manager, so that would be Vortex or Mod Organizer. Vortex makes its deployments to the folder. So, if you backup the Falout 4 launcher and rename the F4SE launcher, you can play, direct from Steam, without ever loading VMM. MO2 is completely virtual and you have to run the game through MO2.

meh. launching from steam is insignificant. all mods work regardless if u run from steam, vortex, or from f4se.exe

thank you for your link, ill have a read. i just find it hilarious at how minor most, if not nearly all mods on nexus are for this game.

Running the game from Vortex is just either running the game from f4se or steam
Running the game from f4se is just loading any f4se dlls and then running it from steam

[karakan]

Originally posted by kdodds:

At some point, you ARE going to need F4SE, so might as well just bite that bullet. You do not need MO2, but you SHOULD use a modern mod manager, so that would be Vortex or Mod Organizer. Vortex makes its deployments to the folder. So, if you backup the Falout 4 launcher and rename the F4SE launcher, you can play, direct from Steam, without ever loading VMM. MO2 is completely virtual and you have to run the game through MO2. Pick your poison.

You will probably need to Bash and Merge at some point, but these can be done in either mod manager (although MO2 handles things a little better).

As far as recommended mods and tutorials, well, here:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=935078716

didnt find anything interesting there and some things are a bit outdated haha :D but tyvm anyways. i just need to optimize the game a bit coz it stutters a bit. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ fallout games man

[kdodds]

Ah, a troll who doesn't need help 'cuz he already knows it all. (But doesn't.)

If you use MO and run from Steam, no mods will load.
If you use Vortex and run from Steam, F4SE will not load.

So, I'll take it you're manually modding (huge mistake). And from your repeated "minor" mods comments, I'll take it you don't (or don't know how to) mod anything, really. Fallout 4 actually has one of the most significantly game altering mods for any BGS title ever, Sim Settlements (with SS2 being developed now).

So, maybe it will help if you're more clear in what you're requesting? Are you *just* looking for anti-crash mods? There's (besides UFO4P) really nothing like that because it's not really necessary. It's a 64-bit engine where every prior BGS game (on release, Skyrim was converted) was not. The extra memory pool (more than BGS's coding, I fear) keeps the game from crashing (most of the time). IOW, you can pretty much play vanilla happily. No need for patchers.

If you're looking to improve performance, you should state that you're looking for feature-gimping mods, like texture downsizers, clutter removers, etc. Those are the things that will help performance, not "major" mods.

[karakan]

Originally posted by kdodds:

Ah, a troll who doesn't need help 'cuz he already knows it all. (But doesn't.)

If you use MO and run from Steam, no mods will load.
If you use Vortex and run from Steam, F4SE will not load.

So, I'll take it you're manually modding (huge mistake). And from your repeated "minor" mods comments, I'll take it you don't (or don't know how to) mod anything, really. Fallout 4 actually has one of the most significantly game altering mods for any BGS title ever, Sim Settlements (with SS2 being developed now).

So, maybe it will help if you're more clear in what you're requesting? Are you *just* looking for anti-crash mods? There's (besides UFO4P) really nothing like that because it's not really necessary. It's a 64-bit engine where every prior BGS game (on release, Skyrim was converted) was not. The extra memory pool (more than BGS's coding, I fear) keeps the game from crashing (most of the time). IOW, you can pretty much play vanilla happily. No need for patchers.

If you're looking to improve performance, you should state that you're looking for feature-gimping mods, like texture downsizers, clutter removers, etc. Those are the things that will help performance, not "major" mods.

if youre unable to have a normal conversation like a normal person then remove yourself from the forums :)

[karakan]

it takes 5 seconds to look at nexus to see how minor fo4 mods are. you obviously havent played morrowind,oblivion,skyrim,fo3 or fonv if u think this game has "significantly game altering mods for any bgs title ever"

oh well. no reason to continue this convo