Settlement system is literally communism

[[ITA] IAleG]

Think about it though,

You (the local authority), don't just provide protection to these people, you tell them what to do, where to do it and who does it.
You micromanage the life of every single settler letting no room for people to advance in the social hierarchy as that's what the minutemen or whatever faction your with is for.


Ironically this came to me as i was reading about the Sim Settlements mod which really aims to privatize sectors by making settler actually have initiative.

[SievertChaser]

Publicado originalmente por DrNewcenstein:

If you can eliminate the penchant for "one upsmanship", you can build an ideal society.

That's not the only thing that you end up eliminating.

Publicado originalmente por DrNewcenstein:

Being productive for The Greater Good is one of the most noble of efforts, right behind giving your life to save another. One pursues achievements for the sake of all, not to get ahead of their fellow.

Except that it is not how humans operate. We ARE evolutionarily wired to compete for resources and mates.

Of course, when faced with this, communists proceeded to dismiss Darwin and came up with Lysenkoism. Similarily, Engel's justification for communism is based on his own theory of societal alienation. TL;DR Everything that is bad in society is because of class distinctions artificially imposed by capitalism.

[The Hat]

Fallout 4 - Definitely a dictatorship not a communist setup. I don't see much of a state or governing body here.

[The Hat]

I dislike communism for it's stagnation in growth and the lack of competition between rival companies to produce better products. One of the many reasons I hate corporatism, monopolies and corporations becoming too big they lack the need to compete with anyone, dulling the drive to better their products and services.

I think i'd almost rather have communism than corporatism. It'd be a close call as I don't see them all that different. Corporatism in the UK right now: 0 Hour Contracts, can't have a second job, no sick pay, warning for injuring yourself and having a day off even injuries on the job. Almost like slave labor some of the jobs that are around now and how different those same minimum wage jobs are from 20 years ago. At least in communism the same standards would apply to everyone, it's a far cry from true capitalism which I would love and that exists in some countries, which used to exist here.

Small businesses competing with each other, constantly forcing themselves to better themselves. Having to try to hang on to the best staff, not assuming they'll get them and thus treating them like dirt as they have no where to go (no competitors), and then it's not better anywhere else anyway because the few corporations that do exist in that industry, all place themselves and their practices to be about the same. Taking a leaf out of a communists book.

[Solomon Hawk]

If you really look very closely at how settlements work ......

nah ... that's suggesting too much.

[leem]

Try thinking of it more as tribal and a means to actually stay alive like a harsh prison or end of the world chaos. Being alone means easy prey. Not everything is political agenda.

[IronSquid501]

Well, yeah. "Communism" on the small scale is how a lot of tiny settlements survive, even in real life. However, even these settlements seem to have internal and external trade, so it's not 100% communism.

[[ITA] IAleG]

Publicado originalmente por The Hat:

Fallout 4 - Definitely a dictatorship not a communist setup. I don't see much of a state or governing body here.

But you're the local authority, i think the state would be the faction you're with.

[[ITA] IAleG]

Publicado originalmente por leem:

Try thinking of it more as tribal and a means to actually stay alive like a harsh prison or end of the world chaos. Being alone means easy prey. Not everything is political agenda.

Just sayin'

[SievertChaser]

Publicado originalmente por IAleG:

Publicado originalmente por The Hat:

Fallout 4 - Definitely a dictatorship not a communist setup. I don't see much of a state or governing body here.

But you're the local authority, i think the state would be the faction you're with.

Heck, you tax those people.

And we all know that taxation is theft!

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Publicado originalmente por leem:

Not everything is political agenda.

You mean we can't have pointless discussions over ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?

[paugus]

Publicado originalmente por The Hat:

I think i'd almost rather have communism than corporatism....At least in communism the same standards would apply to everyone

Small businesses competing with each other, constantly forcing themselves to better themselves. Having to try to hang on to the best staff, not assuming they'll get them...

1. Lol. No, the same standards absolutely do not apply to everyone in communism (or even socialism) ever. Ever. Ever. EVER. (Did I say it enough for it emphasis? One more) EVER.

2. When you have a huge pool of unskilled laborers, there is little incentive to treat them well. If you want to get out of jobs that treat you like a chattel slave, you need a specialist skill and you need to apply it. It doesn't take much training to operate machinery on a factory floor. It takes years to become a skilled woodworker or chef, etc. Of course, I haven't ever had to find an entry-level job in the UK, so I'm sure the climate there is different, but treating low-skilled employees like garbage isn't exclusive to corporatism or even the UK for that matter.

[Astraben]

Publicado originalmente por CordedUberator:

Oh hey, even more people who know nothing about anything.

GTFO

[The Hat]

Publicado originalmente por IAleG:

Publicado originalmente por The Hat:

Fallout 4 - Definitely a dictatorship not a communist setup. I don't see much of a state or governing body here.

But you're the local authority, i think the state would be the faction you're with.

I'm sure every dictator could say the same lol.
But I wouldn't be buying it if they did.