Is this Legal?

[Kaedescope]

So I was browsing on reddit and I came across this post about free creation club stuff (everything thats currently on the CC in one location, free of charge to download). I'm sorta questioning whether this is legal or not to even have such things without purchasing. Now I don't have anything against the CC, I have purchased a few mods from it myself and enjoyed them (although yes they can get pricey for what they offer), I also use the free mods from Nexus with the Paid content from CC. And no, I have not downloaded anything from the post I read, it links to a Google Drive account that contains everything. If something like this exists, doesn't that break the whole idea of the creators getting income off of it since people can just "pirate" it without spending a dime? Also, isn't there any hidden check for the CC stuff, that if you didn't buy it, you'd get caught?

(I won't link it here, but a simple google search still works to find it, personally I don't endorse pirating)

Any thoughts?

[Capt. Carrot]

i would have thought NOT legal.

CC stuff is paid for 3rd party content. i would imagine that making that content available for free would be considered piracy.

Don't know if there is or isn't a check on whether CC content is legit but seeing as SSE doesn't require a constant internet connection, if someone was playing "offline" with pirated CC content any anti-piracy check would be meaningless.

[AlexMBrennan]

Why don't you contact Bethesda about this? They are the only ones who are able to do anything about it.

[bacca400-stm]

Not legal. FO4 is still pretty popular so Bethseda wants to make money on it still, they will not just give it away for free.

FO76 changed the perks system and it looks like you can have only a few perks active at one time so I have zero interest in it.

[PR PUNISHER]

CC is a ripoff and is basically paid mods. Beth has wormed their way to creating a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ market of the backs of nexus mods and creators and have basically gimped the game in favor of broken updates for the cc. Anyone giving out their trash content for free is a hero in my books.

P.S. The official dlc for fallout 4 was stolen from content creators on nexus so don't feel for beth cause their scumbags.

[tulle040657]

1) No it's not legal
2) Bethesda pays the mod creator a one time fee, they get no royalties, so you are stealing from Bethesda and not the mod creator

[=EGC= kansasterry]

The only legal free stuff for the CC is when the CC actually gives something out free at the CC store page as they sometimes do.

For example when they had that recent announcement they gave that vault suit CC content away for a brief period to celebrate etc.

So either they are illegally giving away the content or and this is more likely a trick to install viruses or malware on the computers of those foolish enough to try and get the content without going through the CC.

[Sabaithal]

Really depends. There are mods on CC that already had existing versions for free available on nexus (and usually higher quality to boot). So you have to account for that.

[=EGC= kansasterry]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Really depends. There are mods on CC that already had existing versions for free available on nexus (and usually higher quality to boot). So you have to account for that.

True if they are actually the free nexus versions not the actual CC content then it would be legal however if it is actually the stuff from the CC then it is not legal to just give it away.

[Yeffery]

Really wouldn't care if I were you. Creation Club is just a greedy store full of mediocre content. I'd really not download it if I were you, though. Just incase.

[奶小的姑娘]

If it's on creator's club it shouldn't be shared anywhere else, but I don't have CC myself so I could be wrong.

[Velber]

Originally posted by PR PUNISHER:

CC is a ripoff and is basically paid mods. Beth has wormed their way to creating a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ market of the backs of nexus mods and creators and have basically gimped the game in favor of broken updates for the cc. Anyone giving out their trash content for free is a hero in my books.

P.S. The official dlc for fallout 4 was stolen from content creators on nexus so don't feel for beth cause their scumbags.

while thats a bit harsher than i would have put it, this is basically how i feel about it

[Klawd]

Creation Club is trash and some of it are cheap knock offs compared to the ones on Nexus... Bethesda can choke on it for all I care no one should pay for that trash... the fact that they made it a forced update that also breaks Script Extender and takes drive space only adds to the animosity I feel towards those greedy wastes of humanity.

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by Nyazuki:

So I was browsing on reddit and I came across this post about free creation club stuff (everything thats currently on the CC in one location, free of charge to download). I'm sorta questioning whether this is legal or not to even have such things without purchasing. Now I don't have anything against the CC, I have purchased a few mods from it myself and enjoyed them (although yes they can get pricey for what they offer), I also use the free mods from Nexus with the Paid content from CC. And no, I have not downloaded anything from the post I read, it links to a Google Drive account that contains everything. If something like this exists, doesn't that break the whole idea of the creators getting income off of it since people can just "pirate" it without spending a dime? Also, isn't there any hidden check for the CC stuff, that if you didn't buy it, you'd get caught?

(I won't link it here, but a simple google search still works to find it, personally I don't endorse pirating)

Any thoughts?

1. No, its not legal - they copied the stuff.

2. Creators already got paid. Creators do not get ongoing payments from CC. They are paid to develop the content and once that is done its owned by Bethesda. The creators get a guaranteed up-front payment and that's it.

[Chef]

Originally posted by PR PUNISHER:

P.S. The official dlc for fallout 4 was stolen from content creators on nexus so don't feel for beth cause their scumbags.

It was not stolen at all. That is part of the license agreement you agree to when using the CK. It's spelled out quite clearly there.

[=EGC= kansasterry]

Originally posted by EL KORONA VIROOS:

Creation Club is trash and some of it are cheap knock offs compared to the ones on Nexus... Bethesda can choke on it for all I care no one should pay for that trash... the fact that they made it a forced update that also breaks Script Extender and takes drive space only adds to the animosity I feel towards those greedy wastes of humanity.

The original release are the only assets from creation club that pc users are forced to have (unless the PC user deletes that 600ish mb) and never validate the files as they for legal reasons can not remove them from being part of the game once they were added and will restore them when we validate the game if we deleted them rather then temp move them to external storage so we can restore them to validate files to avoid the download again.

Consoles actually forced Bethesda by contract to make the CC download all the assets to the consoles (as well as restricting the type of content it can contain) so those who purchase something can have it instantly.

It was the shortsightedness on the part of Bethesda that caused the initial release to treat the PC users the same way.

It has since been patched so PC users no longer get the assets installed unless they actually purchase them or they claim one during one of the periods they make something on the CC free like their recent vault suit thing to coincide with some announcement they made. (when they give away something free at the CC would be the only time I would get it IF it is something I feel is worth the effort.)

I would agree that they could have done as they did with skyrim and make a special edition that contained the CC so those who never planned on using it did not have the issues caused when script extender functioning normally disabled itself due to the exe not being the correct one it was written for to prevent the issues we saw in earlier script extenders that did not have the protection built in when commands no longer hooked into the correct location.

Without this protection some benign script extender command for a cosmetic change etc. could suddenly become an instant CTD or worse delete some file depending on the code it hooked into instead of where it was supposed to hook into the fallout4.exe file.

Remember the script extender did not originate just for fallout it has been around since at least the days of oblivion (OBSE) and morrowind (MWSE) possibly even before.

https://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/Tool_Setup:_Script_Extenders#What_is_a_%22script_extender%22?