If I didn't look at Fallout 4's rating I would assume it is a T rated game, not M.

[Lord Tony]

Fallout 2: Has condoms, ♥♥♥ dolls, ♥♥♥ magazines, ♥♥♥,♥♥♥♥♥♥ date♥♥♥♥♥♥
Fallout 4: Um, you can sleep in the same bed as someone?

[Lord Tony]

GTA 5 is borderline AO at this point.

[Lord Tony]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Killzone:

Why should I care about the rating Lord Baloney? Should I be outraged that I cant play a 'Hot Coffee' type minigame?

I don't think I've ever read a post started by you that had any value.

That's nice. Some people like more mature dark humor fallouts.

Some people prefer child friendly fallout 4.

[madmaligor]

Diposting pertama kali oleh Lord Tony:

Diposting pertama kali oleh Killzone:

Why should I care about the rating Lord Baloney? Should I be outraged that I cant play a 'Hot Coffee' type minigame?

I don't think I've ever read a post started by you that had any value.

That's nice. Some people like more mature dark humor fallouts.

Some people prefer child friendly fallout 4.

There is nothing "mature" about seedy ♥♥♥♥♥♥ content. Its for teenagers and loners who need a hot shot release for an outlet.

How the hell does gratuitous ♥♥♥ and kiddie murder play into "post apocalyptic" atmosphere other than maybe the skelleton thing (though i do love the tongue in cheek bears nod)?

Are we really talking realism....or is it the titalation your missing tony...lets be honest.

[Lord Tony]

in a post apocalyptic future with absolutely no rules I'm sure there would be ♥♥♥ and kiddie murder.

We have all this in real life in a society with rules and guidelines. You think society won't devolve into crazy people just looking for blood and ♥♥♥?

[Straybow]

Being a bit of a prude I generally prefer any ♥♥♥♥♥♥ content to be implied rather than shown. I have to admit I'm not all that much of a gore hound either. Fortunately everything has always been tame enough so no real skin of my nose. I don't mind horrible things happening to good people, I’m just not all that interested in the visceral detail.

[Shad]

There's a new breed of game rating guidelines and esrb standards, heavy violence will get you an M rating now a days.

The older fallouts barely got away with it, Bethesda doesn't want controversy and not every game has to fullfill a kiddie murder ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[MaximumEffort]

This is another bait thread by the NV lover Tony. Why are you making a big deal out of it? Its not even that BGS gives the ratings.

Also, every BGS developed game has been like this, I don't see how F4 should be expected to be any different?

And why are you comparing F4 to 1 and 2? It was isometric niche title that got killed by it previous owner and developer, Interplay and Black Isle/Obsidian. Tony should bow down in awe that BGS resurrected a dead franchise, made it a top AAA RPG series and even gave its previous failed developer a chance to work on it as part of their fan service.

But yeah, do go on telling how BGS is murdering the franchise, you sorry excuse for an obvious dweeb and troll.

[NecroMaster]

I had my parents react to the violence in fallout 4.

They said compared to most other games they had seen me play this one was way too Gorey.
And they were surprised at the graphics in the gore despite it not even being a horror style game.

The fact that a head will explode from a headshot kill is violent enough to warrant an M rating.

[Big Moustache]

Explicit ♥♥♥ is not needed (Murikan taboo, go buy the Witcher). Gore and violence is. Drug abuse too. It's still a game after all.

Fisto is legendary for his quote. And much more humoristic than pixelbewbs. And more fitting for the game.

[Alegamer3000]

mais o que é isso q esta aparecendo aki no meu computador

[ARmodder]

Ratings are just that... ratings, it's not like it's a ban on the game, ratings are only used by parents when it comes to controlling what their kids watch for movies/shows and what games they play.

As for the justification of the rating: Drug Use, Profanity, Gore, Extensive Violence, ect are all common criteria that warrant an R rating for a movie, and likewise a Mature rating for some video games, in the case of Fallout 4 all these exist.

♥♥♥/suggestive themes are not required for an M rating. Those who try to criticize the M rating by saying that in a real post-apocalyptic world kids getting murdered, extreme torture (both ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and general), and ♥♥♥ in general ect. would be a thing.....well yes and that's probably something most well-to-do parents don't want their kids to be exposed to in a video game, because they know that it is a reality, and don't want their kids to be exposed to it.

[paugus]

Diposting pertama kali oleh ARmodder:

Ratings are just that... ratings, it's not like it's a ban on the game, ratings are only used by parents when it comes to controlling what their kids watch for movies/shows and what games they play.

Very wrong. Ratings dictate how the game is allowed to be marketed. It's common knowledge that AO and M titles are a smaller audience than T, and businesses do not often succeed by catering to niche markets. They have to either avoid going for AO/M or accept a smaller pool of people to sell to, which they are not keen to do. That is approaching a de facto ban. From the ESRB's website:

"Does the ESRB have any restrictions on how a game can be marketed?

Publishers of physical (boxed) games carrying an ESRB rating are contractually bound to follow the industry-adopted Principles and Guidelines for Responsible Advertising Practices, along with numerous additional requirements addressing how rating information must be displayed on game packaging and in advertising and certain restrictions on where ads for Mature-rated games may appear. The ESRB's Advertising Review Council (ARC) diligently monitors industry compliance, and in the event that a game publisher is found to have inappropriately labeled or advertised a product, the ESRB is empowered to compel corrective actions and impose a wide range of sanctions, including monetary fines."

[Wu]

I know I'm falling for the troll, but screw it, lol. Yeah, the insane levels of gore in this game definitely warrant a T rating.

[Lord Tony]

K so remove the gore, what else does this game have to offer? The language isn't that bad.

The ♥♥♥ themes aren't apparent.

[Seqhmet]

So, the game Tank I played in the 1970's led to my addiction to violence in video games?

That would explain why I had no problem walking through an airport and shooting people in Modern Warfare 2.

DAMN YOU, TANK!!