Topic : Globes

[Customer ******* Stole My Money!]

Topic : Globes and Maps

i was wondering if anybody was familiar with fallout lore enough to say whether the map is simply 'alternate history map' or if the map is suppose to reflect the changes the planet underwent because of nuclear war.


it would appear to me that it would be the first option, just simply how 'this specific' earth developed differently in the "fallout universe"

discuss?


this isnt a♥♥♥♥♥♥rant like that other guys post, so please dont talk about anything real life politically or other niches

[Incunabulum]

Uhm, unless you think someone is making new globes in the post-apocalypse and scattering them around the world . . .

In any case - neither. They're made to represent developers who weren't paying enough attention to notice that the Mediterranean Sea is the same color as land instead of water.

[Sabaithal]

I am assuming the continents would look much the same shape as the real world, given the fact that the setting is in an alternate universe earth.

As for factions and territory, well who knows? Not me.

[Naemane]

Here's one of the maps used in game for the globe models. I pulled it directly from the game's texture files with some minor cropping. As Incunabulum mentioned, some major bodies of water seem to be missing.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1669305887

[MadMek]

That is very odd. I can understand some minor landform shapes being wrong, but why the hell is the entire med missing?

[Sabaithal]

MadMek a écrit :

That is very odd. I can understand some minor landform shapes being wrong, but why the hell is the entire med missing?

"med"?

[Naemane]

Also, apparently the islands of Hawaii seem to be missing from this map (along with the Baltic Sea, the Persian Gulf, the Great Lakes, the Red, Black and Caspian Seas...)

Sabaithal a écrit :

MadMek a écrit :

That is very odd. I can understand some minor landform shapes being wrong, but why the hell is the entire med missing?

"med"?

I'm pretty sure they're referring to the Mediterranean Sea which is colored as land in this map.

[Sabaithal]

Well not all maps have the hawaiian islands on them for some reason. Also You can see the area where the Mediterranean sea is, but yeah it's colored in. Maybe just a texturing mistake?

[Naemane]

Sabaithal a écrit :

Well not all maps have the hawaiian islands on them for some reason. Also You can see the area where the Mediterranean sea is, but yeah it's colored in. Maybe just a texturing mistake?

Either that (most likely) or maybe in the pre-war Fallout universe, resources were scarce enough people were insane enough to be draining entire seas.

[Sabaithal]

I can see that too.

[Grendalcat]

It looks like none of the seas are missing, just land colored. Including the Great Lakes.

[Customer ******* Stole My Money!]

@kaiviel, do you have the other globe texture?
the "antique globe" that is brownish?

on that globe ireland, scotland and britain are tiny seperate islands.
and alot more geographical differences.
also, majority of islands in the pacific ocean are missing not just hawaii.





1. perhaps with all the simultaneous nuclear detonations that dropped all at the same time that caused some kind of nuclear warming on the tectonic plates and atmosphere
essentially creating the equivelant of greenhouse effect except with gamma radiation, evaporating/dispersing entire bodies of water!

2. or perhaps more than one bomb hit the same place, creating a HUGE crater and also super heating the plates underneath
thus lifting and lowering entire continents?

i seem to recall that there was suppose to be another single player fallout game that was teased before 76.
it was suppose to be "the day the bombs dropped" and being a soldier in power armor that survived a blast and how brotherhood of steel came to be established at that time.
i read that way back right around the same time fallout4 was released, however.
so unless they're saving that chunk of "lore" for fallout5, i doubt 76 is going to explain.


i realllllllly REALLY dont think the globes are coloured that way by mistake.
very unlikely it slipped passed MULTIPLE people.... the artist and 3d model, all the testers, and then anybody at the studio.
also if it was a mistake it would have been patched.

it's as if you guys are thinking a conversation took place
3d model guy "hey where is the mediterranean sea?"
texture guy replies "oh, nobody will notice... we're only making a multimillion dollar project here..innacurate maps are fine."
3d model guy "yea but... your adobe photoshop window is still open, why dont you just color it blue?"
texture guy "too late, it's already down the pipe and being worked on by a 3d modelist... out of my hands."
3d model guy "IM SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO YOU!"
texture guy "nobody will notice."

seriously, i cant imagine how a conversation would actually take place under that scenerio?
it was MORE like this
"hey where the medi-sea?"
"lore guy told me to make it this way"
"howcome?"
"ask him"

my point of view, there is a reason they made the globes the way they did as "foreshadowing" a future plot revelation.

but anyway, i wanted a convo about game LORE.
shuttin this down.

[red255]

in mothership Zeta DLC you get a good look at the current earth from space.

I don't recall much about it really except its very brown. but its the closest view to the actual fallout Earth I can think of.

[Naemane]

Here are the other globe textures:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1669305161

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1676985912

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1676991834

[isoveikka]

I think that map is just a mistake, lack of checking really. Mediterranean Sea, Red Sea, Baltic Sea and Gulf of Persia all are not colored, but otherwise map is as it should as far as I can tell.

So basically someone made a map, forgot to color it fully, and then they just copy-pasted it every place they needed.

[red255]

Thats possible I suppose.

but if you had the classic fallout manuals in 1 and 2, there were some interesting mistakes in the weights and measurement section that imply this is not a mistake.