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Random XP for no reason
So its been an hour since this bug has been happening to be and I have absolutely no idea why, before anybody asks no I do not have the idiot savant perk.

So the problem is pretty simple, I keep getting random XP every few seconds. Something like 17 XP, or 19 with the well-rested bonus. I didn't minded at first but I think I managed to level up twice thanks to this bug (I've also been doing quests and exploring but even if I just leave my character still I keep earning the same amount of XP over and over and over) and I don't want to keep leveling up like this as it feels like cheating.

I already went back a save and but the problem keeps happening regardless, is there any solution to this? Any mods or console commands that could stop this random XP gain? Do I have to re-start the save, go back to a previous save perhaps?

Addendum:Although I have no idea why this bug happens I notice that this second time I started earning this random XP after having slept. With Tenpines Bluff also being attacked, I head there to defend it and complete the misc objective but the XP keeps being earned anyway. I believe something similar may have happened during the first time before I went back to an earlier save to see if the problem wouldn't happen again. Not sure if this information is useful or not but there it is.
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kdodds Dec 4, 2018 @ 10:55am 
Are you sneaking? If not, what mods do you have installed? Or what modifications have you personally made to the game configs?
Arauto Kagnos Dec 4, 2018 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by kdodds:
Are you sneaking? If not, what mods do you have installed? Or what modifications have you personally made to the game configs?
No, I am not sneaking. I have quite a list of mods
CBBE
Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch
Improved Map with Visible Roads
Alex's Bobbleheads Tracking Markers
Presto - No More Forced Radiant Quests From Preston
Everyone's Best Friend (Dogmeat and Companion At Same Time - No Console - No Hack)
It Just Works-Critical Executing Sound Effect replaced by the quote from Todd Howard
Advanced Animation Framework (AAF)
LooksMenu
Brazilian Imperial Flag
Faction Pip-Boys
Power Armor HUD Enhanced
Scrounger Expanded
Full Dialogue Interface (NewDialog English and CN-DE-ES-FR-IT-JA-PL-PTBR-RU translations)
Do It Yourshelf - clutter for shelves and bookcases
Better Item Sorting
Better Companions - All In One
Minutemen Takeover - Nuka World
We Are The Minutemen
Militarized Minutemen
Militarized Minutemen -Uniforms Patches and Insignia Addon
Settlements Expanded
MMP4APA - Minuteman Paint for ALL Power Armors (Gray or Blue)
No more cash register sound when XP gain(This one I just downloaded so the cash register sound wouldn't drive me insane)

As for personal modifications I haven't done anything outside of modding.

Last edited by Arauto Kagnos; Dec 4, 2018 @ 11:06am
Asmodan Dec 4, 2018 @ 3:54pm 
The Game sometimes gives you XP for Kills that happend around you but not caused by you, especially if you travel alone without any Companions. So if anything dies around you you get the Xp for it. I don't know why excatly this happens and i don't know how to stop this, but i think this is not easy to fix.
Out Of Bubblegum Dec 4, 2018 @ 4:33pm 
Like Asmodan said. At Tenpines there is the RR tracks to the East and below. The traveling merchant wanders that area and it is a random spawn point. Maybe more than one spawn point. Since they are 'allies' you can get credit from their kills. Sometimes. It should not happen a lot or in all different areas.
Arauto Kagnos Dec 4, 2018 @ 6:59pm 
Yes, I am aware such things can happen but this has been happening even after a few additional hours of gameplay. I've tested in multiple areas of the map and it still happens, however I have found a work-around, sort of, for anybody else having this issue in the future.

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/100 this mod will disable the cash register sound effect for the XP gains. The pop-up will still be there however.

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/6838 this mod will allow you to set a level cap, if you've already hit the level cap it will stop all XP gain. I've tested it myself, however if you disable or uninstall the mod the XP gain will return.
Batty Madi Nov 27, 2019 @ 5:41pm 
I'm having this issue too. I know this is an old post but those mods aren't a great work around at all. Has anybody found a mod or something? Even a patch? I don't want to start my game all over, I really don't.
DouglasGrave Nov 27, 2019 @ 7:30pm 
Originally posted by Batty Madi:
I'm having this issue too. I know this is an old post but those mods aren't a great work around at all. Has anybody found a mod or something? Even a patch? I don't want to start my game all over, I really don't.
If it's only happening occasionally when there's a fight somewhere nearby, you'd usually just ignore it. It would be more trouble to fix.

If it's literally happening continuously every few second, even if you're standing around in a peaceful area, you'd need to first find the cause. The OP had a number of different mods, so I guess you could look into notes and reported bugs for any mods you've got installed, or try disabling some of them to see if it makes any difference.
Cale Nov 22, 2023 @ 9:14am 
I was having this issue in vanilla, where I was consistently being awarded 17xp basically every 2.5 seconds (though some actions delay the notifications and every so often I'll get a notification of 34xp when two get stacked up). It persisted through saves, fast travel, finishing quests, and many other things. Whatever the source of XP is, it was affected by well-rested, just like in OP's case. It's very unclear why it began.

I saw a report online of someone doing the "Fire Support" mission at the Cambridge Police Station and having it stop. I'd already done that mission, but I decided to travel to Cambridge Police Station anyway, to see if anything around there was the cause, and it immediately stopped before I'd entered the building. Still quite a mystery, I'd love to have some way to figure out what was happening behind the scenes to cause it.
Zekiran Nov 22, 2023 @ 1:04pm 
As stated, when you're near someone that is part of your faction, settlement, or a settler on their supply line route, and they kill something, you get that xp.

But hey if you're just getting xp all the time, yo free xp.
Cale Nov 22, 2023 @ 4:04pm 
Yeah, I've seen that as well, but this definitely wasn't like the intended behaviour unless it was something being instantly killed and respawning again every couple of seconds. It was kind of cool for a couple free levels, but the unstoppable trickle of "cha-ching" and popup notifications was kind of ruining the experience overall.
DouglasGrave Nov 22, 2023 @ 9:58pm 
We never got further details from the OP, but their mention of it starting one time after sleeping makes me wonder whether it might be like that survival food bug where an effect ends during the sleep period and thus doesn't properly terminate itself. It need not be food in this case, though, since I don't know of any particular food that awards XP, rather than just boosting the amount you receive. Well-Rested just boosts XP in general, so that doesn't tell us much about exactly what is being awarded.

I can't account for the OP's mods and this is from a while ago, but do you perhaps share any mods with their list?
Arauto Kagnos Nov 23, 2023 @ 6:50am 
Originally posted by DouglasGrave:
We never got further details from the OP, but their mention of it starting one time after sleeping makes me wonder whether it might be like that survival food bug where an effect ends during the sleep period and thus doesn't properly terminate itself. It need not be food in this case, though, since I don't know of any particular food that awards XP, rather than just boosting the amount you receive. Well-Rested just boosts XP in general, so that doesn't tell us much about exactly what is being awarded.

I can't account for the OP's mods and this is from a while ago, but do you perhaps share any mods with their list?
Now a days I run with different mods and I didn't ran into that issue again when I replayed the game earlier this year. At least not that I can remember it anyway.
Death Approaches Nov 23, 2023 @ 8:53am 
Hey OP! Still playing, respect! :radiationsymbol:

rezzes are normally hated Cale, but this one is a legend...

I've even seen reports that some people get it in 100% vanilla too, and seem smart enough to know what a "mod" or "Creation Club" content is... swear they were straight out of the vault, ran to Sanctuary Hills, just met Codsworth, hadn't even gone bughunting looking for Shaun in the dilapidated houses nearby, they claim they got it too, the 11 to 19 exp (but usually 17 apparently) every two seconds, indefinitely.

There's only a couple ways to award xp, directly by incrementing the actorvalue directly or by the proper way with the papyrus function playerrewardxp...

what needs to happen is some capable modder needs to catch this frustrating one, who knows how to troubleshoot... although if showing up in the Cambridge Police Station region stops it from accumulating, that's a huge clue, if not doing anything, if you've even been there before and done the ferals clean-out for Danse from proximity triggering the radio call... that's hugely telling. If that's true for everyone that gets it, that is halfway there to knowing how to stop it from the console.

in four thousand hours, ~80 characters, 12 full separate Fallout 4 installs, 20 to 24 complete playthroughs (hundreds of mods of course).. never once seen it. Maybe I'll jinx it by typing this out loud and catch it. I'd love a chance to troubleshoot it.

Again, it's legendary. Always thought it was trolling, if hardcore addicts with 10,000+ hours have never seen it... it doesn't exist.
Cale Nov 27, 2023 @ 1:52pm 
Yeah, I'm in 100% vanilla without any expansions or mods yet, and have had the bug start happening 3 times now. Each time, the problem was somehow instantly cured by visiting the Cambridge Police Station, which is quite surprising in itself. The Brotherhood of Steel are set up there, but I haven't talked to Paladin Danse to continue that quest line. I'm not sure when it started the first time, but the second two times, it began immediately upon fast travelling to a location.
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