Quesions about F4SE and F4 versions. Need Help!

[The Firebrand]

Hey guys. So I've been modding my fallout for quite a while now. There's this issue with Bethesda constantly updating and breaking the game for us script extender users.

So my question is, what's the latest Fallout4.exe version and what's the latest F4SE version? Is it updated? I know of http://f4se.silverlock.org/ and f4se.weebly but the second one doesn't seem to be updated anymore. It's 1.10.75 with no updated F4SE, correct?

I'm asking because some of my mods won't work properly (Like looks menu options for additional hair colors, tattoos, etc. because I'm not using the latest Fallout4.exe version.) I had to downgrade to 1.10.26 currently to be able to play with F4SE.

Update:

Originally posted by The Firebrand:

Okay I managed to find a solution online.
There were some issue with old files remaining so what I did was

Deleted "Fallout 4\Data\F4SE\Plugins" folder

[Faedrill]

F4SE and Looks Menu work with the latest Fallout 4 update. Just download the latest/newest version of them. Set Fallout 4 in Steam to "Only update then launch" and start the game through F4SE.

[pike]

http://steamcommunity.com/app/377160/discussions/0/364039785169337238/

[kdodds]

First, Bethesda doesn't break F4SE. F4SE breaks itself. And, it's actually a pretty smart and simple way to handle things. Because, if you're continuing to save bake scripts with the new exe, there's no real guarantee you won't break those saves. At least with the versioning, the F4SE team can look it over and make necessary decisions (sometimes they don't need to update).

Second, the F4SE version for the current exe was released just hours after the exe itself. That night, in fact. Steam will always download the latest updates by default. F4SE will always have the latest update on f4se.silverlock.org by default. They also have an archive link on the main page for older releases.

Last, it's up to mod authors to keep their SE dependent mods up to date. If the SE dependent mod is not being maintained, it's probably better to do without it. However, LooksMenu is not one of those abandoned mods, it's been updated for two days now. I'm not ragging on you or beating up on your decisions. I'm just making a statement of fact that your life wil be a lot easier and more pain free if you dump whatever SE dependent, abandoned, add in for LooksMenu you're using. And if you're not using anything like that, why not update?

[The Firebrand]

Okay so I've managed to update fallout 4 (repaired) with the latest version of F4SE. I've deleted all .dlls that were below f4se_1_10_75 .

My game can run fine with normal Fallout4.exe (all mods disabled) but it crashes on startup when I run f4se_loader (mods disabled again) .

So my conclusion is something's wrong with the script extender since vanilla game runs fine. Any idea what might be causing this?

[pike]

un-install the old f4se_loader.exe along with the 2 .dlls f4se_steam_loader.dll and f4se_1_10_xx.dll
open the f4se zip file (06_06) select all and extract to steamapps/common/fallout4 say yes if asked to overwrite
open nmm , update the mods that require f4se to work .
run loot
start the game with the regular launcher one time . you only need to go as far as the screen where you can select a save to load , this lets f4se see what it needs to hook into
launch the game via the f4se_loader.exe
should work , if not run the f4se_loader.exe as admin ,
if not ,open the f4se logs in docs>games>fallout 4 (where your saves are)
these will show whats malfunctioning

[The Firebrand]

Originally posted by pike:

un-install the old f4se_loader.exe along with the 2 .dlls f4se_steam_loader.dll and f4se_1_10_xx.dll
open the f4se zip file (06_06) select all and extract to steamapps/common/fallout4 say yes if asked to overwrite
open nmm , update the mods that require f4se to work .
run loot
start the game with the regular launcher one time . you only need to go as far as the screen where you can select a save to load , this lets f4se see what it needs to hook into
launch the game via the f4se_loader.exe
should work , if not run the f4se_loader.exe as admin ,
if not ,open the f4se logs in docs>games>fallout 4 (where your saves are)
these will show whats malfunctioning

I believe the issue is within F4SE itself but I can't manage to find out what exactly. (Since F4se doesn't run with all mods disabled).

I found out people were having issues with overlays + this but I disabled everything that had an overlay running over my game and still can't run it with f4se.

[The Firebrand]

Originally posted by pike:

un-install the old f4se_loader.exe along with the 2 .dlls f4se_steam_loader.dll and f4se_1_10_xx.dll
open the f4se zip file (06_06) select all and extract to steamapps/common/fallout4 say yes if asked to overwrite
open nmm , update the mods that require f4se to work .
run loot
start the game with the regular launcher one time . you only need to go as far as the screen where you can select a save to load , this lets f4se see what it needs to hook into
launch the game via the f4se_loader.exe
should work , if not run the f4se_loader.exe as admin ,
if not ,open the f4se logs in docs>games>fallout 4 (where your saves are)
these will show whats malfunctioning

Which txt has the error logs? I can copy it here.

[pike]

Originally posted by The Firebrand:

Originally posted by pike:

un-install the old f4se_loader.exe along with the 2 .dlls f4se_steam_loader.dll and f4se_1_10_xx.dll
open the f4se zip file (06_06) select all and extract to steamapps/common/fallout4 say yes if asked to overwrite
open nmm , update the mods that require f4se to work .
run loot
start the game with the regular launcher one time . you only need to go as far as the screen where you can select a save to load , this lets f4se see what it needs to hook into
launch the game via the f4se_loader.exe
should work , if not run the f4se_loader.exe as admin ,
if not ,open the f4se logs in docs>games>fallout 4 (where your saves are)
these will show whats malfunctioning

I believe the issue is within F4SE itself but I can't manage to find out what exactly. (Since F4se doesn't run with all mods disabled).

I found out people were having issues with overlays + this but I disabled everything that had an overlay running over my game and still can't run it with f4se.

you dont know what your doing , follow the instruction i gave you and it will work .
f4se does not need mods to run , some mods my need it (f4se) if you disable all mods or some you may break the saves that rely on them , you are doing more damage than good by just doing things without knowing what you're doing .

[pike]

Originally posted by The Firebrand:

Originally posted by pike:

un-install the old f4se_loader.exe along with the 2 .dlls f4se_steam_loader.dll and f4se_1_10_xx.dll
open the f4se zip file (06_06) select all and extract to steamapps/common/fallout4 say yes if asked to overwrite
open nmm , update the mods that require f4se to work .
run loot
start the game with the regular launcher one time . you only need to go as far as the screen where you can select a save to load , this lets f4se see what it needs to hook into
launch the game via the f4se_loader.exe
should work , if not run the f4se_loader.exe as admin ,
if not ,open the f4se logs in docs>games>fallout 4 (where your saves are)
these will show whats malfunctioning

Which txt has the error logs? I can copy it here.

they are in the f4se folder in the location i said before (where your saves are)

[The Firebrand]

There are 9 different .txt files in that folder. Which one do you need?

[pike]

re-install f4se like i said 1st , update mods like i said , follow those instructions 1st ,

[The Firebrand]

Originally posted by pike:

re-install f4se like i said 1st , update mods like i said , follow those instructions 1st ,

I did. It still crashes.

[pike]

Originally posted by The Firebrand:

Originally posted by pike:

re-install f4se like i said 1st , update mods like i said , follow those instructions 1st ,

I did. It still crashes.

no you didnt , you cant dl and update mods ,re-install f4se that fast , if you want help you have to help yourself

[Faedrill]

He did it before.

[The Firebrand]

Originally posted by Faedrill:

He did it before.

I don't think pike knows what he's talking about, he's just here to argue and troll.