Red Rocket Reset

[Candoo]

I just started playing a new game a while back and one of the first things I did was to get rid of the garbage, etc at the Red Rocket to turn it into my player home. It has been fine all along. I just went back and all the garbage is back all over the floors and outside, including bushes and vines, and it won't let me high lite them to re-scrap. I hadn't been back there lately, so I don't know how long it's been like this. I thought the reset bug was fixed. I haven't even built much there yet other than a few commodities. Any suggestions ?

[Out Of Bubblegum]

Sounds like you disabled your scaper mod. You use scrap everything? It does not really scrap anything - just marks items to not be displayed. If the mod is disabled then everything comes back. Did you check other areas where you scrapped stuff? Otherwise it sounds like a cell reset bug. If you reenable the mod it might resrore your all your scraps.

[Candoo]

I use Spring Cleaning and it NEVER got disabled at any time; I know better than to let that happen. ;) I checked at Sanctuary and there was a few things that I had thought I had scrapped, that weren't, but I can't be sure. I haven't been doing a lot of settlement building yet.

[The Giving One]

Originally posted by Candoo:

I use Spring Cleaning and it NEVER got disabled at any time; I know better than to let that happen. ;) I checked at Sanctuary and there was a few things that I had thought I had scrapped, that weren't, but I can't be sure. I haven't been doing a lot of settlement building yet.

Have you made sure to check for updates to your mods, like spring cleaning ?

A while back, some were reporting issues with that one and suggested scrap everything instead, but pretty sure those issues were fixed with that mod.

Never seen that before myself, scrapped items reappearing without the mod being disabled.

Do you have your Steam/Fallout 4 installed in program files ? (Windows UAC folder)

[Candoo]

I have the latest version of Spring Cleaning, although older, and no, I have both installed on another drive (SSD) that I use exclusively for my games. Never a good idea to run from Program Files.
Maybe a dumb question, but is it possible to run Spring Cleaning and Scrap Everything in tandem, at the same time ?

[The Giving One]

Originally posted by Candoo:

Maybe a dumb question, but is it possible to run Spring Cleaning and Scrap Everything in tandem, at the same time ?

Nicely done, not installing under UAC or program files.

And as to your question, I have seen others say they do use both and don't have issues. Not sure of the load order, of course, but that should be easy to test or allow for your load order sorting software to handle, perhaps.

[Candoo]

Strangely, it corrected itself. I started playing and went back to the Red Rocket, and all the clutter was still there. I just thought "screw it" and went and did other things (defending settlements, lol ) and when I went back everything was back to normal, with all the clutter gone. More strangely, I decided to build a bit there. I was using items from the Homemaker menu and as I was scrolling through the items, large trees that I had scrapped were appearing then disappearing in the background. I tried it with other menus and it was only doing it with Homemaker,

[Ilja]

Mods like Spring Cleaning and Scrap Everything will disable PreCombined Meshes from settlements they edit. The INI-tweak only applies to locations outside of settlement borders.

Any mod that makes direct edits to settlements (not to Workshop itself) may cause game to refresh the settlement, causing Settlement Respawn Bug.

It is very important that scrapping mod you are using is below each and every other mod editing the settlement in your load order. Otherwise the lack of VIS data (visibility for meshes, also generated in Creation Kit) can launch the bug.

Be careful with scrapping mods. Disabling PreCombined Meshes also means that game will load your settlements in pieces, instead of merged NIFs. That will hit the performance, depending on computer power and amount of stuff you build in to settlements.

[neddy3135]

If you have the F4SE , Place Anywhere , Scrap Everything and a build budget mod(s) , you can get away pretty much with everything when it comes to settlement building .

[The Giving One]

Originally posted by Candoo:

I was using items from the Homemaker menu and as I was scrolling through the items, large trees that I had scrapped were appearing then disappearing in the background. I tried it with other menus and it was only doing it with Homemaker,

I get that also, in every playthrough of the game. That not really uncommon from what I understand. I also use homemaker, but I am not sure if that is a glitch with that mod or just in the game itself. It's never been an issue for me, as they just blink in all blurry and then blink out again.

[Astasia]

Probably added a mod that edits the cell, like something that places a chest or item in the area. Weapon and armor mods commonly trigger it for me, I install them without realizing they add a hidden chest with all their loot to a settlement cell and then the edits to that cell overwrite the changes made by the scrapping mod causing all the scrapped objects to return. Just have to remember to keep the scrapping mod low on your mod list so it always takes priority.

Originally posted by The Giving One:

I get that also, in every playthrough of the game. That not really uncommon from what I understand. I also use homemaker, but I am not sure if that is a glitch with that mod or just in the game itself. It's never been an issue for me, as they just blink in all blurry and then blink out again.

I've never seen that happen. I used homemaker a bit in the past, but I only use SOE these days. I would be very concerned if I saw that happening in my game.

[The Giving One]

Originally posted by Astasia:

I've never seen that happen. I used homemaker a bit in the past, but I only use SOE these days. I would be very concerned if I saw that happening in my game.

It might be an issue or conflict with another mod I have. Not sure. I have seen others say they have the "phantom tree" glitch also, but it is harmless. They just blink in and out when navigating the menu in Homemaker, not too often for me.