All Workshops- Red Workbenches- Missing, Even From Old Saves

[breandan]

Pretty much what the title says. Everything was hunky dory and then I went to take Hangman's Alley and noticed there was no workbench. Went to all of my previously acquired saves, nada. I can still open the workshop menu by holding F, but the bench is missing and I can't access it to secure new settlements.
I have tried PRIDing the workbenches and hitting "enable" multiple times, "moveto player", and all of the usual tricks to unbugger this particular up-buggery, no dice. I tried reloading earlier saves all the way back to just coming out of the vault, nope. It's as if the settlement workbench- the physical model- has been completely removed from the game along with the interaction markers. Haven't tried starting a new game because it takes too bloody long to get through the vault and into Sanctuary and I have to faceplant, but I'll try it tomorrow.

[oldrotorhead1]

How many mods do you have installed?

[breandan]

a lot, but the game was playing just fine without any changes prior to this. The only thing that I did differently was uninstalling the LString bow mod, which just adds a weapon and shouldn't affect the workbenches. If it was a mod conflict it should've cropped up a long time ago as this mod combo has been used for months now

[EolSunder]

put on a bunch of mods, mods broke game, help. post 10000000 on this subject. Never had workbenches disappear in vanilla game, ever. Installed a MOD, broke game, what happened? lol. You answered your own question.

[Eclipse]

what about a new game? does the issue persist?

Mod authors and most modders know that old saves that have had mods installed and uninstalled over 100's or 1000's of hours can break. If this is news to you, well, then i guess its time to learn.

uninstalling mods regardless of what kind of mod always presents a risk to hurting you old saves, or current playthrough.

the amount of conflicts and utter crap that is left in certain mods, that shouldn't be there always is remarkable to me.

so, if you start a new game and the issue persists, its mods faults.

but if you start a new game and issue is gone, it was your fault because of something you did regarding installing or removing mods, that we may never figure out because a mod that you removed might have some scripts in it, or some remnant that the mod author left that they forgot about that screwed up your game.

[Sabaithal]

Could be a corrupt installation. Or a corrupt mod installation.

If you have any mods that change the workshop or workbenches in ANY way I would uninstall, re-downdload, and do a clean install of them first.

If that's not the culprit, likely something in your base game files is messed up.

[Guilion]

I have an idea. Install a mod that enables new workbenches in unusual places (eg the glowinng sea) with vortex then check for connflicts and disable the coflicting mods 1 by 1.

[breandan]

Okay, did some troubleshooting and it looks like it's something that affected the mesh itself, rendering it invisible and unable to be interacted with even in a new game with mods stripped. So, deleted the vanilla meshes and verified integrity. Will check after it downloads to see if that is the issue

[breandan]

Originally posted by EolSunder:

put on a bunch of mods, mods broke game, help. post 10000000 on this subject. Never had workbenches disappear in vanilla game, ever. Installed a MOD, broke game, what happened? lol. You answered your own question.

Yes, very helpful. I am sure the hundreds of others who have had this or similar issues I ran across while researching solutions and are looking for a fix are enlightened by the wisdom you shared in how to solve this problem.

[Eclipse]

Originally posted by breandan:

Okay, did some troubleshooting and it looks like it's something that affected the mesh itself, rendering it invisible and unable to be interacted with even in a new game with mods stripped. So, deleted the vanilla meshes and verified integrity. Will check after it downloads to see if that is the issue

there are also material files related to mesh/texture. double check your materials file for anything that might interfere with that mesh.

also if its affecting more than one save, it sounds like it is script related. if thats the case your kinda effed.

scripts can remain attached to save files LONG after the related mod and script has been deleted, sometimes permanently.

It might be a weird glitch that was caused by a script made by a Mod author. for mod weapons, often mod authors will use injection scripts to put the gun into the world, and maybe somehow the author messed with something they shouldn't, or it could just be the old skyrim engine screwing something up because of some script, some fluke of some sort.

in any case it sounds like youre gonna need to modify your save file or start a new save, if what you have done doesnt fix it.

I hope what youre doing fixes your issue though.