Will Bethesda update this game again>are my mods safe?

[Redarmy]

So i only got around to buying FO4 recently,the game has been out a while and i wouldnt expect more updates.I have a mod list of 55 plugins and am wondering IF Bethesda will release a new update,and if it will mess up my mods and require mod authors to update their content...

I hear "CC UPDATES" being spoken about and dont really know if that means it forces an update even if we do not use CC content. And if so will that mess up stuff like Falllout 4 Script extender and stuff important to my mods list.

Can anyone enlighten me?

[pleasenoname3]

You would need to wait and get a new script extender update when that happens.

[berrako]

If you are using mods and especially f4se and mods depending on it you should go to game properties in steam library and set the game to "update only at start this game".

As you always should start the game using f4se and steam never update it and you can play safe and update manually only when f4se and all the mods you are using are out for the new version.

If you aren't using f4se and mods based on it you are mostly safe, 90% of the rest of the mods doesn't break when the game update, specially now that most updates only will be cc updates that doesn't really affect the game

[xybolt]

Originally posted by Redarmy:

So i only got around to buying FO4 recently,the game has been out a while and i wouldnt expect more updates.I have a mod list of 55 plugins and am wondering IF Bethesda will release a new update,and if it will mess up my mods and require mod authors to update their content...

I hear "CC UPDATES" being spoken about and dont really know if that means it forces an update even if we do not use CC content. And if so will that mess up stuff like Falllout 4 Script extender and stuff important to my mods list.

Can anyone enlighten me?

The key problem is that there are mods that depends on F4SE. And F4SE is version dependent. If you don't use F4SE based mods, you do not have to worry about updates. If you do, then you have. That is because when a new update is issued, the version gets changed so that F4SE would not work correctly anymore (different addresses in new build). Hence they locked it at a specific version.

There is a stickied thread how to manage it.
In essence it is just two steps:

• make a copy of your Fallout4.exe (as a backup). Rename it so that the date or version is in the name
  
• in Steam: disable updates for FO4 through options

Then it is a matter of launching the game correctly. I am launching F4SE through Steam, so on update days, I don't launch through Steam anymore, but via its f4se_loader.exe file directly (just create a shortcut for convenience)

[Redarmy]

Thanks guys. so CC updates mess the the Fallout executable and therefore mess up script extender,most mods that dont rely on SE are going to remain functional,while mods relying on SE will not work until SE works *again* / gets updated.

SO to sum up it should be OK,and SE team are pretty fast to deliver updates since the days of Skyrim if im correct . Great thanks for clearing it up.

Il also look at the back up exe and non auto updating FO4.

[pleasenoname3]

I noticed that loading screens take longer now that all the "official" CC stuff is on our computers now after every update

[Sabaithal]

As has already been stated a million times, a few which on this thread no less: If you want to avoid the BS CC updates, launch the game via F4SE.

Problem solved.

[Exvalcore]

Sabaithal you don't realize how easy it is to click the wrong launcher by mistaken at which point theres no going back the real answers just moving the whole game out of the folder & then use F4SE.

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by Exraiel:

Sabaithal you don't realize how easy it is to click the wrong launcher by mistaken at which point theres no going back the real answers just moving the whole game out of the folder & then use F4SE.

You're right, I don't, because I use a premade "launch F4SE" button on NMM every single time. There is no chance for me to make that mistake.

I think its possible to make a BAT file that can do the same thing.

[pleasenoname3]

i had updates turned off and didn't click the button and somehow it auto-updated.

[Redarmy]

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

Originally posted by Exraiel:

Sabaithal you don't realize how easy it is to click the wrong launcher by mistaken at which point theres no going back the real answers just moving the whole game out of the folder & then use F4SE.

You're right, I don't, because I use a premade "launch F4SE" button on NMM every single time. There is no chance for me to make that mistake.

I think its possible to make a BAT file that can do the same thing.

What about when you NEED to use the vanilla launcher in order to access the game settings that are ONLY available through launcher and not in game? Or for me personally and im sure others have issues like this depending...you simply click FO4 ONCE in library for maybe discussions tab or whatever and the click registers twice,possibly due to double clickin mouse and then ye,no going back.
Anyway SE will always be updated within a day or two so its not end of world

[Sabaithal]

Originally posted by Redarmy:

Originally posted by Sabaithal:

You're right, I don't, because I use a premade "launch F4SE" button on NMM every single time. There is no chance for me to make that mistake.

I think its possible to make a BAT file that can do the same thing.

What about when you NEED to use the vanilla launcher in order to access the game settings that are ONLY available through launcher and not in game? Or for me personally and im sure others have issues like this depending...you simply click FO4 ONCE in library for maybe discussions tab or whatever and the click registers twice,possibly due to double clickin mouse and then ye,no going back.
Anyway SE will always be updated within a day or two so its not end of world

Simple. Just use the launcher, change whatever settings, then hit the "EXIT" button. If the settings aren't changing its because one of your Skyrim inis is 'read only'. Had it happen before.

Also, if you're tech savvy enough anything you'd need the launcher for can be changed in the inis directly. Apparently, because I'm not that tech savvy :P

Also...also, if you have problems with accidentally clicking the steam directory there are ways to back up Fallout4.exe for just such an occasion. I would google it if its a common issue for you.

[Incunabulum]

Originally posted by Redarmy:

So i only got around to buying FO4 recently,the game has been out a while and i wouldnt expect more updates.I have a mod list of 55 plugins and am wondering IF Bethesda will release a new update,and if it will mess up my mods and require mod authors to update their content...

I hear "CC UPDATES" being spoken about and dont really know if that means it forces an update even if we do not use CC content. And if so will that mess up stuff like Falllout 4 Script extender and stuff important to my mods list.

Can anyone enlighten me?

Bethesda will release no content that will mess up your game. They will release no bugfixes that will mess up your game.

They will, however, change the advertisements on the main menu every couple of months, iterate the game version when doing so, and then screw up your game because they wanted to tell you that they added a new, overpriced, skin the cash shop.

[xybolt]

Originally posted by Incunabulum:

Bethesda will release no content that will mess up your game. They will release no bugfixes that will mess up your game.

Eh, you aren't familiar with Bethesda's Creation Engine based products they have released until today.