Using VATS in Fallout?

[Jeremy]

In all the other fallout games, the combat was so dreadful that VATS was necessary. Now, I honestly can't stand it. Is this just me? Or is VATS completely unneccesary and unfun now.

[Agarillobob]

Originally posted by Snidely Whiplash:

Originally posted by _Synt3rax_:

its literally an aimbot there is no fun about it

Aimbot, you say. So, the percentage "to-hit" is a useless number. Interesting. So if you miss, is it still aimbot? I am enlightened!

(Sarcasm intended)

https://youtu.be/pele5vptVgc

yea thats why I said if you compared it to an aimbot it has to be a bad aimbot

[Borrolan]

With the Penetrator perk, VATS is extremely good. Enemies in cover can be splatted.

VATS is also effective against flying thingies that are difficult to hit. Deliverer is tickety boo against the buggers (sorry) because of its VATS enhancement.

Also exceptionally good for hitting the Fusion Core of PA wearing Raiders. Beep beep beep...kabloom.

VATS is a tool. Whip it out (fnarr fnarr) when there is the need.

[gnewna]

Originally posted by Agarillobob:

Originally posted by Snidely Whiplash:

Aimbot, you say. So, the percentage "to-hit" is a useless number. Interesting. So if you miss, is it still aimbot? I am enlightened!

(Sarcasm intended)

https://youtu.be/pele5vptVgc

yea thats why I said if you compared it to an aimbot it has to be a bad aimbot

Well, it's not an aimbot per se, it's an emulator-of-character-skill-outweighing-player-skill bot.

[Agarillobob]

yea the comparison in general was pretty bad

[BrigadierRosen]

i guess its good for hard to hit creatures and enemies. and fun kills as well.

[RangerX3X]

I use VATS all the time and frankly could not care less what anyone thinks about it. It is simply a matter of personal taste.

[Unregistered HyperCam 2]

I use it for only one reason,mods+bullet fly cams

[Inner Sight]

I usually don't tend to use VATS unless searching for mines or checking enemies' health/status (by that I mean checking if any in any said group may be legendary). But there are times I've used it in combat against harder targets that rush in. Like mongrols, stingwings or bloodbugs.

[zafire063]

Originally posted by Listerine Dragon:

Originally posted by Gintoki:

VATS is an optional mechanic, you never have to use it if you don't want to.
Fallout 1 and 2 forced you to use it, here that's not the case.

Yeah, it's optional. Im just stumped as to why anyone would choose that option.

Because I don't like FPS games. VATS turns it into more of a statistical game, which is something I prefer. It also gives you a huge advantage against enemies much stronger than you.

[ρоѕιтяои_]

I don't use V.A.T.S. much in this title as compared to the other Fallout games.

[Tesityr]

Originally posted by zafire063:

Originally posted by Listerine Dragon:

Yeah, it's optional. Im just stumped as to why anyone would choose that option.

Because I don't like FPS games. VATS turns it into more of a statistical game, which is something I prefer. It also gives you a huge advantage against enemies much stronger than you.

This ^ especially for "enemies much stronger than you"

Also, I think many people forget that there are tons of people who either are not good at FPS games or simply do not like them (preferring say, RTS games, etc). While personally I don't mind FPS games and shootin' other people (although I prefer Single Player games like Hitman or Fallout), I have friends that hate the FPS genre lol

[valeran46]

@Gintoki (and the OP)

Fallout 1 and 2 did not "force you" to use VATS. The combat system in Fallout 1 and 2 was turn based and, as such, you could target whatever body part you wanted with your action points, or move and attack, etc. That was the game's combat system. Fallout 3 was the transition from turn-based to real time shooting mechanic. They put VATS into Fallout 3 for old timers like myself that grew up on Fallout 1 and 2 so we could still play the game with a similar combat mechanic as Fallout 1 and 2. Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 4 has kept the VATS system, with Fallout 4 turning it from a freeze frame mechanic to a "it slows down a bit" mechanic. Future Fallout's may not even have VATS as they are continually trying to turn it into Call of Duty in the Wasteland instead of a post-apocalyptic RPG.

I use VATS exclusively because that's how I've always played Fallout regardless of the number in the series. You don't like it? Don't use it. It's no longer THE game mechanic. It's only there for old timers like myself.

[Tesityr]

Originally posted by Taldirok:

I use it for only one reason,mods+bullet fly cams

YES

Prime Example:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1087674272

[Agarillobob]

oh yea and you can kind of skip relaoding with using VATS at the right time
if they havent patched that out by now

[Anvos]

Fairly sure its intentional but also costs more ap when you do so.