Fallout 4 vs Witcher 3

[Commancho]

After almost 600h in Fallout 4 and around 200h in Witcher 3 here are my toughts:

ENGINE
Witcher has much better graphics and level of details - from lanscapes, through people and monsters, it has much better animations of every detail starting from hairs to character'ss movement, combat, mouth animation when speaking, it better shows the emotions on the character faces. It has wayyyy more animations and more varied combat. It has more dynamic, varied and immersive weather. Way more varied landscapes, architecture, details of armors and weapons and everything else. Witcher 3 has almost no loading times, when Fallout 4 vanilla has loading almost every freaking location, not to mention heavily modded game when loading times take forever. It feels like next generation comparing to Fallout 4 lol

AUDIO
Both have good soundtracks fitting the theme (I mean classic radios in pipboy). Witcher 3 has much better soundtracks for combat, exploration (if you exclude pipboy's radio) and it's more varied and better when it comes to bold some important event in the story. Witcher 3 has much better dolby surround, you feel that you are in the cave or on the sea while you need to mod your Fallout 4 so it can at least pretend to do so. Witcher 3 has much better voice acting, which could ashame alot of A-class movies, while our (male - because I'vent tried female) character in Fallout 4 is often completly killing the immersion by wrong invocations which are not fitting into a situations or they don't sound like we wanted to say it.

STORY/WORLD
Witcher 3 has much more adult and complex story, it's funny that fantasy world feels more realistic than post-apo. After finishing W3 you feel like F4 is a game for children with these short and not logical dialogues, shallow characters and stories, huge and empty world, colorful and idiotic armors and weapons, generic locations and completly not immersive world.

90% of locations in F4 are generic, they have no hidden/official quests, they ar filled with:
A) Raiders
B) Ghouls / Supermutants
C) Animals

You don't know how they get there, what they are doing there and what is their goal. It seems that they are just waiting/sleeping for the PC to come and kill them. Sometimes you can find some holotope or terminal and read some pre-war stuff, but its just not enaugh and it has no impact on the game. Sometimes it allows you to find some hidden generic items or even more rarely to do some very short (I mean really short) quest. There are maybe 2-3 bosses in the random locations with their own little story that has basicly no impact on the gameplay because all you have to do is just kill them in the way you want to and take their RANDOM loot. There are no rare drops except "legendary" weapons which are not even reskinned weapons of these which exist in the game, but standard re-names weapons with random legendary modification. Moreever drops are not realistic at all since a dog can drop you for example missle launcher (he ate it or what?). Main story is shallow like in every Bethesda game, but this time they went further and it's even worse than in Skyrim, NV or F3. Also there is no ending, you just finish quest and nothing is changing. After completing a main plot I was like "hmm, okay, another quest completed - lets build some settlement". Nonsense.

Meanwhile in Witcher 3 we have dynamic world which is affected by our acts, single npcs or whole factions change their attitude towards us depending on what we are doing. Every location can be a separate and long story, alot of side quests are better and LONGER than main story in Fallout 4. Almost every boss has his own story, often we have to discover it to understand how he get there and how we can defeat him. World feels alive, if not the magic and monsters I would say that it's freaking good simulation of medieval times. You got pubs, bars, restaurants, smiths, barbers, cookers, sailormans, guards, criminals, thiefs, bankers, mages, alchemists, farmers, villagers, rich aristocracy, politicians. Damn, when you enter a Novigrad you can almost smell a diffrent kinds of dinners comming from the restaurants. You see people walking around, buying stuff, sitting in the park or having a conversations! Every village, city, abandoned house have their story and you feel it! Main story is speeding and slowing down in smooth way that allow you to explore this beutiful and immersive world. You don't have such a nonsense like in Fallout 4 where monsters are running 20m from main gates of the city - everything is well tought and placed correctly and with sense.

CRAFTING/BUILDING/MODDING/COMBAT
Witcher 3 has no option to build or mod stuff so points go to F4, altough not everyone has enjoyed thes features in F4. Crafting in vanilla F4 is rather generic and it feels varied, but you end up with the same attachments anyway and you don't need to combine them with your character's progression - as long you give perks for melee all you have to do is to use melee weapon with the most damage and most advanced attachement.

Witcher 3 forces you to choose two or three favorite main weapons, learn how to use them in combat and forces you to learn how to combine it with whole perk trees and other abilities like magic, alchemy or crossbows. Combat requires not only a decent choices of weapons and perks, but also a quite high level of manual reflex, tactic and practice which is very satisfacting with every succesfull combo and finisher.

SUMMARY
Overall I've spended more time in Fallout 4, but that's only because of the mods and building stuff which was something new for me (I've never played Minecraft). However after completing an Insitute ending, building every single setllement/outpost to maximum, exploring every single location and doing almost every single quest I feel really fed up with this game. Last 200h I wasn't enjoying that much like first 100h. Game felt too generic, simplicited, shallow and sometimes childlish. Still I had a good time while playing Fallout 4, which is a good game, but not that epic like Fallout 2 and as Fallout franchise it simply sucks togheter with Fallout 3 and Fallout NV. All Fallouts from Bethesda got alot boh of pros and cons. Quality of their games in this franchise is like rollercoaster - riding upside down during your gameplay. I feel like all of DLCs were not worth of buying at all. They come with shallow and short stories, while being focoused on non rpg aspect of the game - crafting and building. Also aspect which is very bugged, simplicited and generic. We build settlements for the art of building - there is no point of building them since they give us nothing else, but satisfaction and rescources which are not a problem even in mid-game. It feels shallow, because after we have built our great settlement there are no actions involved with it except generic and random raids and same caravans comming from time to time. There are no random encounters, there no strangers, thiefs, bandits or simply anyone who comes to visit our settlement which is sad when you consider how many DLCs have been dedicated for this part of the game. Management of settlements is bugged, has medicore UI and it's not intuitive or transparent.

Meanwhile Witcher 3 has given me an option to experience a great adventure, I felt like I could touch this medival fantasy world. It was one of the games that you will remember after very long time and I'm sure that I will comeback to it after awhile and try some diffrent build and playthrough. After 200h I had absolutly no single moment of boredom, moreover I coudln't belive that it's already game over. Ending was just outstanding and DLCs were very impressive and they setted a new level of quality, as the enitre game.

Witcher 3 is better in every aspect than Fallout 4 except modding and has setted a new quality for cRPG games. Fallout 4 is a good game and nice time killer if you like modding, building and crafting or you are just like to explore wastelands without any other reason, but killing. Fallout 4 can be dissapointing if you don't like modding, crafting or building and you are die hard Fallout 1 & Fallout 2 fan because its wide and shallow like Ocean. It's that generic that even some funny situations or dialogues which you encounter in the game are not longer making you laugh and you just ignore them and desperatly search for some interesting location, boss, item or quest, because unfortunely there aren't many in this game.

[Zulu]

Nguyên văn bởi Commancho:

Nguyên văn bởi jrr101:

Fallout was an obscure cult classic at best before bethesda and of the 5 games vegas remains the worst. Im ignoring shelter and bos

Yeah, that's why it's rated in the top cRPGs in the history by branch. For example by IGN it's 15th, while Witcher 3 is 10th, Skyrim 25th and F:NV 28th. Fallout 4 is not even classified in top 100 probably because it's not even cRPG, but action adventure minecraft xD

Skyrim? 25th? Now you are just making things up...

[Zulu]

Nguyên văn bởi sjrekis:

Nguyên văn bởi Zalera:

It is a robot army he can send ONE as many times as he wants

No one entered or gained permission to enter lucky 51 in hundreds of years of course every faction would want to get your ass on their side even if sacrifices were made of course the old game mechanic problem you killed dozens of high ranking officers and they still forgive you but you say like fo3 and fo4 arent even worse

WHich is the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ design ever. Every decent superpower like NCR would've just sent a demolition squad and taken L38 down, with everything inside. But somehow, for reasons of magical plot, they need to obey house. Same as every other 'clan'. They could wipe house out, easily.

And then you have a securiton production facility located just below the fort, guarded by a tiny little door, and no Legion members tried to get in. You kidding me? Like WTF?

NV had some good ideas, but most of that is hidden behind a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ world design and moranic logic patterns that OE displays in every game they have ever made.

Caeser: "Behind doors that can't be blasted open, pried open... unlocked by any means"

Me: Uh? What about the floor? Or the walls? Or LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE?!?!

Caeser: "The door cannot be opened. No way in. Nope, can't do it."

[Von Faustien]

Nguyên văn bởi Zulu:

Nguyên văn bởi sjrekis:

WHich is the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ design ever. Every decent superpower like NCR would've just sent a demolition squad and taken L38 down, with everything inside. But somehow, for reasons of magical plot, they need to obey house. Same as every other 'clan'. They could wipe house out, easily.

And then you have a securiton production facility located just below the fort, guarded by a tiny little door, and no Legion members tried to get in. You kidding me? Like WTF?

NV had some good ideas, but most of that is hidden behind a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ world design and moranic logic patterns that OE displays in every game they have ever made.

Caeser: "Behind doors that can't be blasted open, pried open... unlocked by any means"

Me: Uh? What about the floor? Or the walls? Or LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE?!?!

Caeser: "The door cannot be opened. No way in. Nope, can't do it."

to be fair the anti tech angle of the legion proably meant they just banged there face against the door.

[jackhickman999]

Nguyên văn bởi jrr101:

Nguyên văn bởi nomadpad:

nah some things were not from the book, meaning its not completely true to the lore... we should give them the same ♥♥♥♥, people give fallout 4 over jet, and some minor pointless lore things, people tend to ♥♥♥♥♥ about.

That or we need to start crediting warner bros interactive for inventing elves and middle earth since adapting book now means you invent the lore.

Yeah tolkien is largely credited for making the genre appealing and setting up some stereotypes for them, he didn't actually invent elves that so many people actually think he did for some stupid reason.
Wait we all draw on the same folklore so guess so I guess nothing is original anymore.

Most people that think they love tolkien and have most likely just seen the films.

The books as pages and pages of singing all the time and has loads of ♥♥♥♥ like hobbits faffing around with people like Tom Bombadil.

So if you don't know what the books are like nor read them how can you say what the has adaptation has brought to the table and what the books did so might as well be quiet now.

[nomadpad]

Nguyên văn bởi MageThis:

Was going to sooo yawn on these comparison threads. So:

\YAWN.

the point of this thread is just talking to talk.

[Von Faustien]

Nguyên văn bởi jackhickman999:

Nguyên văn bởi jrr101:

That or we need to start crediting warner bros interactive for inventing elves and middle earth since adapting book now means you invent the lore.

Yeah tolkien is largely credited for making the genre appealing and setting up some stereotypes for them, he didn't actually invent elves that so many people actually think he did for some stupid reason.
Wait we all draw on the same folklore so guess so I guess nothing is original anymore.

Most people that think they love tolkien and have most likely just seen the films.

The books as pages and pages of singing all the time and has loads of ♥♥♥♥ like hobbits faffing around with people like Tom Bombadil.

So if you don't know what the books are like nor read them how can you say what the has adaptation has brought to the table and what the books did so might as well be quiet now.

I do have to say I never could finish the lord of the rings books the pacing was terrible. And no it's not because I don't read I've finished the game of thrones books, the foundation novels and a ♥♥♥♥ load of classic scifi and fantasy but spending 30 pages describing a uneventful walk that has no plot bearing is just bluug.

[jackhickman999]

Nguyên văn bởi Mr. Nobody:

Nguyên văn bởi jackhickman999:

Yeah tolkien is largely credited for making the genre appealing and setting up some stereotypes for them, he didn't actually invent elves that so many people actually think he did for some stupid reason.
Wait we all draw on the same folklore so guess so I guess nothing is original anymore.

Most people that think they love tolkien and have most likely just seen the films.

The books as pages and pages of singing all the time and has loads of ♥♥♥♥ like hobbits faffing around with people like Tom Bombadil.

So if you don't know what the books are like nor read them how can you say what the has adaptation has brought to the table and what the books did so might as well be quiet now.

I do have to say I never could finish the lord of the rings books the pacing was terrible. And no it's not because I don't read I've finished the game of thrones book, the foundation novels and a ♥♥♥♥ load of classic scifi and fantasy but spending 30 pages describing a uneventful walk that has no plot bearing is just bluug.

Yeah a lot of it is a chore to read tbh his son Chris didn't like the films because they didn't portray tolkiens work and made it into a action film.

Which lets face it his books have action in but it has tons more singing and faffinf around in it.

[Zulu]

Nguyên văn bởi Mr. Nobody:

Nguyên văn bởi jackhickman999:

Yeah tolkien is largely credited for making the genre appealing and setting up some stereotypes for them, he didn't actually invent elves that so many people actually think he did for some stupid reason.
Wait we all draw on the same folklore so guess so I guess nothing is original anymore.

Most people that think they love tolkien and have most likely just seen the films.

The books as pages and pages of singing all the time and has loads of ♥♥♥♥ like hobbits faffing around with people like Tom Bombadil.

So if you don't know what the books are like nor read them how can you say what the has adaptation has brought to the table and what the books did so might as well be quiet now.

I do have to say I never could finish the lord of the rings books the pacing was terrible. And no it's not because I don't read I've finished the game of thrones books, the foundation novels and a ♥♥♥♥ load of classic scifi and fantasy but spending 30 pages describing a uneventful walk that has no plot bearing is just bluug.

I understand what you mean. I haven't read the LOTR books, and i do intend to someday. I read the Hobbit and that was fine, didn't feel slow at all.

I wish i remembered what this book was, but man oh man was it slow. I don't need 6 pages describing a book; it's massively unnecessary.

[jackhickman999]

Yeah you can't really say that he didn't put tons of effort in as he made a very rich world but it's hard to digest it all.

Plus you need to read his letters and the silmarillion.

You may even have to read the twelve book history of middle earth as well then you might be able to appreciate it almost fully.

I don't like a lot of whats in the Witcher books tbh I mean in the end the main characters die in a riot of all things.

It's like if frodo got killed by the other hobbits in a riot after he got the ring to mt doom all that to be beaten to death with a baguette XD.

[Disgruntled Cuttlefish]

Fallout 4 or Witcher 3?

Both are totally overrated trash.

[TheRealBlueFalcon]

Nguyên văn bởi 76561198017336274:

Fallout 4 or Witcher 3?

Both are totally overrated trash.

damn watch out, hes edgy everyone. Fight that power

[Stelar Seven]

Edgy necro?

[Incunabulum]

Nguyên văn bởi 76561198017336274:

Fallout 4 or Witcher 3?

Both are totally overrated trash.

What a totally useless person you are.

[Sabaithal]

...why would you compare a shooter like Fallout 4 to a slasher like the Witcher? Its like comparing an airplane to a submarine and trying to debate which one is better.

Skyrim vs the Witcher would have made a lot more sense to me...

[Elbmek]

Comparing one game with another is a total waste of time. Ubisoft is reknowned for its crappy bugs, but another company may be reknowned for its smooth play, its classy music, or choice of whatever. Just enjoy, or bin.