Tales of Symphonia

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Kiln Feb 29, 2016 @ 5:32pm
THANK YOU NAMCO BANDAI!
Thank you for removing VMProtect!
It Never should have been there in the first place, but I sure am glad it's gone!
I know it can be a real trial convincing all the people who need to be convinced before commiting these kinds of code changes.
So to whomever is responsible for taking the first major step towards un-fubar-ing this game:
THANK YOU!
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Lametta Feb 29, 2016 @ 5:56pm 
What a sheep. The only reason why they probably removed that is because they will stop patching the game. The patches up until now were insignificant enough. So with removing vmprotect they fully outsource the patching to the community to fix their mess.

And you basically thank them for this????? Mad World
Last edited by Lametta; Feb 29, 2016 @ 6:27pm
SageX85 Feb 29, 2016 @ 6:28pm 
Originally posted by Lametta:
What a sheep. The only rason why they probably removed that is because they will stop patching the game. The patches up until now were insignificant enough. So with removing vmprotect they fully outsource the patching to the community to fix their mess.

And you basically thank them for this????? Mad World

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you never can make people happy
Lametta Feb 29, 2016 @ 6:32pm 
Originally posted by SageX85:
Originally posted by Lametta:
What a sheep. The only rason why they probably removed that is because they will stop patching the game. The patches up until now were insignificant enough. So with removing vmprotect they fully outsource the patching to the community to fix their mess.

And you basically thank them for this????? Mad World

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you never can make people happy
Listen dude the community wanted them to patch out vmprotect from the start and they didnt do it.

If they would have removed vmprotect to make people happy they would have mentioned removing it in the patch notes. They would have made a big deal about it and said how much they care about our opinion and that they do what we want.

But did they do that? No they silently removed it since they dont intend to patch the game anymore. The patches they did were ♥♥♥♥ anyhow.

Basically so you get it: They didnt do anything to make me happy. The port without fan patches is still ♥♥♥♥. Nothing changed. the game still has a broken frame limiter, it is still 30 fps, it still has missing effects... i could go on..

So tell me smart guy what did the devs do to make me happy besides removing a drm that shouldnt have been in there in the first place?

Oh you cant answer? still feel so smart?

mad world
Last edited by Lametta; Feb 29, 2016 @ 6:34pm
Or you know, you could just not buy it?
Naijiro Feb 29, 2016 @ 6:39pm 
Originally posted by Lametta:
Originally posted by SageX85:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you never can make people happy
Listen dude the community wanted them to patch out vmprotect from the start and they didnt do it.

If they would have removed vmprotect to make people happy they would have mentioned removing it in the patch notes. They would have made a big deal about it and said how much they care about our opinion and that they do what we want.

But did they do that? No they silently removed it since they dont intend to patch the game anymore. The patches they did were ♥♥♥♥ anyhow.

Basically so you get it: They didnt do anything to make me happy. The port without fan patches is still ♥♥♥♥. Nothing changed. the game still has a broken frame limiter, it is still 30 fps, it still has missing effects... i could go on..

So tell me smart guy what did the devs do to make me happy besides removing a drm that shouldnt have been in there in the first place?

Oh you cant answer? still feel so smart?

mad world

What if they removed it silently cause they knew people would complain about it still, claiming they shouldn't have had it there in the first place.
Lametta Feb 29, 2016 @ 6:42pm 
Originally posted by the_randomizer1889:
Or you know, you could just not buy it?
I preordered tales of zestiria and got it for free. The only reason i preordered it though was the promise of tales of symphonia. throwing out a defective product and spitting on the gamers faces is wrong no matter how you put it.

And before any smartass comes around and says the game was free i say no it wasnt. I still paid enough money for zestiria and getting 2 games for 1 price was maybe the deceisive factor for the purchase for some people.


Or you know you could slowly stop defending shady practices of publishers/devs ?
how long did the release of this game pass by ? It is still in a ♥♥♥♥ state and you still have the stomach to defend this.

Mad world
Lametta Feb 29, 2016 @ 6:47pm 
Originally posted by j a y p i e:
Originally posted by Lametta:
Listen dude the community wanted them to patch out vmprotect from the start and they didnt do it.

If they would have removed vmprotect to make people happy they would have mentioned removing it in the patch notes. They would have made a big deal about it and said how much they care about our opinion and that they do what we want.

But did they do that? No they silently removed it since they dont intend to patch the game anymore. The patches they did were ♥♥♥♥ anyhow.

Basically so you get it: They didnt do anything to make me happy. The port without fan patches is still ♥♥♥♥. Nothing changed. the game still has a broken frame limiter, it is still 30 fps, it still has missing effects... i could go on..

So tell me smart guy what did the devs do to make me happy besides removing a drm that shouldnt have been in there in the first place?

Oh you cant answer? still feel so smart?

mad world

What if they removed it silently cause they knew people would complain about it still, claiming they shouldn't have had it there in the first place.
The ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ is long gone and the attention on this game has long shifted. No media outlet like youtube or pc gaming sites will report about this anymore so even if ppl would say that it would be a minority.

I for one dont complain but proof my point through arguments that sheep like you wont try to understand. We dont need to thank them they did let us down.

The game was in a ♥♥♥♥ state with drm. The only major thing thats changed is the removal of the drm prolly because they wont patch the game anymore.

So whats your deal how can you still keep fanboying
Last edited by Lametta; Feb 29, 2016 @ 6:49pm
SageX85 Feb 29, 2016 @ 6:50pm 
Originally posted by Lametta:
Originally posted by SageX85:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha you never can make people happy
Listen dude the community wanted them to patch out vmprotect from the start and they didnt do it.

If they would have removed vmprotect to make people happy they would have mentioned removing it in the patch notes. They would have made a big deal about it and said how much they care about our opinion and that they do what we want.

But did they do that? No they silently removed it since they dont intend to patch the game anymore. The patches they did were ♥♥♥♥ anyhow.

Basically so you get it: They didnt do anything to make me happy. The port without fan patches is still ♥♥♥♥. Nothing changed. the game still has a broken frame limiter, it is still 30 fps, it still has missing effects... i could go on..

So tell me smart guy what did the devs do to make me happy besides removing a drm that shouldnt have been in there in the first place?

Oh you cant answer? still feel so smart?

mad world


Oh i have an answer for everything, but you'll never be happy, ya ol' grumpy. So go ahead, complain to your heart content.
Kaldaien Feb 29, 2016 @ 6:57pm 
Originally posted by Lametta:
Basically so you get it: They didnt do anything to make me happy. The port without fan patches is still ♥♥♥♥. Nothing changed. the game still has a broken frame limiter, it is still 30 fps, it still has missing effects... i could go on..

So tell me smart guy what did the devs do to make me happy besides removing a drm that shouldnt have been in there in the first place?

Oh you cant answer? still feel so smart?

mad world

Tales of Zestiria still has a broken framerate limiter. So that's a rather stupid complaint. If QLOC couldn't fix it, Other Ocean certainly won't be fixing it.

Likewise, VMProtect isn't DRM. To the best of my knowledge, the game's DRM has not changed at all.
Last edited by Kaldaien; Feb 29, 2016 @ 6:58pm
Lametta Feb 29, 2016 @ 7:03pm 
Originally posted by Kaldaien:
Originally posted by Lametta:
Basically so you get it: They didnt do anything to make me happy. The port without fan patches is still ♥♥♥♥. Nothing changed. the game still has a broken frame limiter, it is still 30 fps, it still has missing effects... i could go on..

So tell me smart guy what did the devs do to make me happy besides removing a drm that shouldnt have been in there in the first place?

Oh you cant answer? still feel so smart?

mad world

Tales of Zestiria still has a broken framerate limiter. So that's a rather stupid complaint. If QLOC couldn't fix it, Other Ocean certainly won't be fixing it.

Likewise, VMProtect isn't DRM. To the best of my knowledge, the game's DRM has not changed at all.
I as a customer dont care how they fix a mess or if it is in the ability of an outsourced company. Why should i dig that deep?
if i go to a restaurant i want a tasty burger and if the burger has bad meat i dont go researching where they get the meat from to later see if my complaşnt would be valid or the smart thing to do lol. It is their responsibility not mine.

I d rather say that you telling me that my complaint is stupid is the stupid thing to do.

Drm/anti temper whatever.
Last edited by Lametta; Feb 29, 2016 @ 7:04pm
Kaldaien Feb 29, 2016 @ 7:09pm 
Think what you want, but it is a stupid complaint. You don't complain to the exterminator that your pool cover is torn.

Other Ocean and QLOC didn't create that framerate limiter, and neither are qualified to fix it.
Last edited by Kaldaien; Feb 29, 2016 @ 7:10pm
VMProtect is an abonimation and never should have been used. DRM, anti-tempering, whatever it is, it's an excresence of a program.
Kiln Feb 29, 2016 @ 7:12pm 
Originally posted by Lametta:
What a sheep. The only reason why they probably removed that is because they will stop patching the game. The patches up until now were insignificant enough. So with removing vmprotect they fully outsource the patching to the community to fix their mess.

And you basically thank them for this????? Mad World

Honestly, I don't care why they did it.
I still want them to know it's appreciated, I'd rather reinforce positive behavior, even if it falls on deaf ears.
I really don't care if they stop patching it, the modders can take it from here now that VMProtect is out of the way. It isn't Ideal but it's preferable to the alternative.
Kaldaien Feb 29, 2016 @ 7:15pm 
I could have taken it from there before VMProtect was removed actually. I already worked around it completely, which is probably why they removed it.

What you should be rejoycing about is that the game no longer spits out temporary executables. This means that drivers and other software that requires a constant executable name to identify which game is running will work as intended.
Lametta Feb 29, 2016 @ 7:20pm 
Originally posted by Kaldaien:
Think what you want, but it is a stupid complaint. You don't complain to the exterminator that your pool cover is torn.

Other Ocean and QLOC didn't create that framerate limiter, and neither are qualified to fix it.
So let me get this straight.
They outsource the port have almost unlimited monetary means andcant make any company fix the broken frame limiter while you (half demigod) gaining nothing from it single handedly can fix it.

I think it is more realistic that they just didnt care enough to fix it instead of not being able to.(thats the whole point iam making anyhow they dont care)
proof of that? Yeah all the other downsides like still internally locked res that according to durante shouldnt have taken them much effort.

If they would have fixed everything but THAT i would have said that you are right. But it is obviously because of their lack of interest.


Prolly otherocean andqoloc just rush from one project to the other and dont polish the games long enough if there isnt enough motivation(money) behind it anymore.


Whatni gather from all your posts is that you are full of yourself:
i fixed the framelimiter but those companies cant.
I worked around vmprotect thats why they removed it (LOL They prolly arent even aware of that.)

But whatever kiddo go around and call others stupid while you make an ass out of yourself.
Last edited by Lametta; Feb 29, 2016 @ 7:23pm
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