Why isn't this Tales of Symphonia Chronicles?

[Doriphor]

Are there plans to expand the game to include the sequel? I'm really peeved that the best platform got the meh-est port.

[Great Duck]

Because they didn't want to port Dawn at the moment? There is nothing mandating they be released together.

[Shadow Esper]

I still want Dawn. I'd still buy it.

[WTFantastico]

Originally posted by Shadow Esper:

I still want Dawn. I'd still buy it.

You'd still buy it. You know, this is more than likely the reason they can release poorly-functioning software and not have to take responsibility for it. You'll still buy it. Jesus, people like you deserve all the ♥♥♥♥ you're given by lazy companies, only the people with standards get to suffer as well.
Well, "standards" are subjective, and nothing objectively says that the quality of video games NEEDS to live up to my standards (which I consider bare-minimum), but it's still frustrating when people like me are held back by the gormless masses who will blindly support even the laziest, most cynical moves of big companies. People like you hurt the games industry.

Elitist? Arrogant? Yea, I am all these and more, but I don't think I'm wrong on this.

[Shadow Esper]

Originally posted by WTFantastico:

Originally posted by Shadow Esper:

I still want Dawn. I'd still buy it.

You'd still buy it. You know, this is more than likely the reason they can release poorly-functioning software and not have to take responsibility for it. You'll still buy it. Jesus, people like you deserve all the ♥♥♥♥ you're given by lazy companies, only the people with standards get to suffer as well.
Well, "standards" are subjective, and nothing objectively says that the quality of video games NEEDS to live up to my standards (which I consider bare-minimum), but it's still frustrating when people like me are held back by the gormless masses who will blindly support even the laziest, most cynical moves of big companies. People like you hurt the games industry.

Elitist? Arrogant? Yea, I am all these and more, but I don't think I'm wrong on this.

Yes, thank you, for that. You bring so much to the table yourself.

Guess what. I don't go around attacking people for saying 8 words.

This topic is about Dawn not being on PC, in the bundle like ps3. Not whether or not that your opinions are saited.

I will continue to buy the games I've played and liked. Vesperia, Graces F, Dawn, Abyss.

Guess what. I won't buy Xillia 1 or 2, because I don't like those games.

Port quality is a completely different topic of discussion. Not one that you should attack people because they'll support a series that may have bad ports. I got Symphonia as the preorder bonus, yes. But I still would have bought it seperately. I disliked Zesteria greatly, but I couldn't refund, because I played too long.

You people who attack others are why we always get bad reps as gamers. Calling people names. Threatening people's real lives over small game changes. Sending Death threats. Swatting. There's a thousand reason why your kind don't help.

So before you attack people over a small comment, look at your own life, and think about how you can be a decent human for once.


Anyway. Sorry Opening. Had to get that off my chest.

[chaoticenigma]

I was excited for this version after having played it on PS3. But the VMProtect and broken stuff in this version makes it a no buy at the moment. I would have been angry if I had been stuck with this after preordering Zestiria since that would have required preordering a bad Tales game just to get a broken port of a good one.

I'm fine with the PS3 versions of both of those though. So i don't really need to double up with either Zestiria or Symphonia PC.


This antitamper stuff that didn't even stop much in this would kill a port of DotNW for me as well. I do not hate the game, and it is fun, but being able to actually mod the original cast to actually be able to level up and actually be able to be useful would be a great reason to buy. A playable monsters mod could be interesting too.


DotNW has a lot more potential with modding as people have shown on the Wii version. Being able to do that stuff on a version with actually good controls, would be

[Kaldaien]

Who says it's not? This whole thing is a chronicle in how not to develop software.

[ventus925]

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

Who says it's not? This whole thing is a chronicle in how not to develop software.

I would buy it because in general. I liked DOTNW way way more than Symphonia.

[Redblaze27]

I demand the entire tales franchase, and tekken, to be patched into this game.

[RiO]

Originally posted by Doriphor:

Why isn't this Tales of Symphonia Chronicles?

Because ToS: Dawn of the New World / Knight of Ratatosk already hit near rock-bottom with its initial release on the Wii. There was no need to lower its bar with any further ports after the PS3 port had driven in the final nail.

You have to praise Bamco's efforts on the job they did with the original Symphonia tho'. It took 3 consecutive ports to PS2, to PS3 and PC, but with the excellent contracted help on the PC port they finally managed to break that sucker.

</sarcasm> (Incase that wasn't clear enough yet.)

[Not Root]

My policy is same as always. No Preorders. I will judge the released product in isolation, based on others' analyses, and from there decide its worth to me personally.

I bought neither Symphonia nor Zestiria, and since my requirements for that changing are highly unlikely to be met, I probably never will. I played both briefly with my roommate who preordered Zestiria originally, and dismissed both ports in their current state; I've enjoyed watching the ensuing outrage from the community, and the development of TZFix/TSFix, far more.

As Berseria is released, I will be watching. If they bring DotNW to PC, I will be watching. Though so many people, so frequently, underestimate the cost of redemption, no one is truly beyond it.

[Chasey]

If they did a better job porting this, I'd have maybe hoped for the sequel too, but I have to say I really was NOT a fan of the sequel. The characters were very annoying with Tenebrae being the only cool new one, in my opinion, and the story was eeeeehhhh to me. Not as much to it, I think. The one thing I did enjoy a lot was getting to tame monsters in a Pokemon-esque manner.

I'm glad I got this one for free anyway, and kinda glad they didn't port both; it would just be one more game they made worse. :<

[Reshyk]

Originally posted by Chasey:

If they did a better job porting this, I'd have maybe hoped for the sequel too, but I have to say I really was NOT a fan of the sequel. The characters were very annoying with Tenebrae being the only cool new one, in my opinion, and the story was eeeeehhhh to me. Not as much to it, I think. The one thing I did enjoy a lot was getting to tame monsters in a Pokemon-esque manner.

I'm glad I got this one for free anyway, and kinda glad they didn't port both; it would just be one more game they made worse. :<

My biggest problem with the sequel was it felt like it couldn't really stand on it's own two feet. The whole thing felt like just a demo for the first game. You can go to all the locations in the old game, where all the puzzles are solved. And hey, let's tease you with all the old characters! But they only join breifly and have nowhere near the same level of customization or combat effectiveness as the two main characters. I mean the entire first half of the game is all about finding Lloyd and seeing all of the people who impacted his life.

And in general the game seemed to lack a touch of quality or polish. Just look at the mystic artes in DotNW to see what I mean. Some of them seem half finished. (I'm thinking of Radiant Roar and Final Fury specifically here.)

The only new thing the game really added was said; the monster taming system. From what I've seen you either love it or hate it. Personally, I think it was shoehorned in and doesn't really shine very much in a character action game. It doesn't help that I like to play Tales games with my two sisters and the monster system made it so that the three of us couldn't play together most of the time. I wasn't a fan of how they took away the world map or the majority of exploration either.

In general when I find myself describing a sequel more with what they took away rather than what they added, I call it a bad sequel. The game is technologically sound, but to me the gameplay was just.... really dull. Then when you add things like both of the main characters consistantly behaving like children, and a clumsily told story*, then what you get is a game that I actively dislike playing.

*Seriously, if you have to flashback to the same line at the beginning of the game everytime Emil does something that isn't whine and cry then you're not conveying his motivations properly.

[★~Hanakotoba~★]

Man, DotNW was terrible. It was a bad tales game, that could and maybe would have done better if it didn't scumbag off everything that made Symphonia loved. That's prolly why it's not on PC, because it's not well liked, it's a bad tales game.

[Roy Masters]

I loved Symphonia 1 and even more nostalgia since it was my first "Tales of". I didn't like Symphonia 2 Either. I hope they put their time/effort/money to get another port like Abyss/Vesperia/Xillia but regardless we are happy that they added Symphonia 1 with the pre order (I was going to buy it anyways) but anyhow Pre Ordering Berseria RIGHT UP when it comes :D

[animefan8910]

Originally posted by WTFantastico:

Originally posted by Shadow Esper:

I still want Dawn. I'd still buy it.

You'd still buy it. You know, this is more than likely the reason they can release poorly-functioning software and not have to take responsibility for it. You'll still buy it. Jesus, people like you deserve all the ♥♥♥♥ you're given by lazy companies, only the people with standards get to suffer as well.
Well, "standards" are subjective, and nothing objectively says that the quality of video games NEEDS to live up to my standards (which I consider bare-minimum), but it's still frustrating when people like me are held back by the gormless masses who will blindly support even the laziest, most cynical moves of big companies. People like you hurt the games industry.

Elitist? Arrogant? Yea, I am all these and more, but I don't think I'm wrong on this.

I maybe 3 years late to the party, but I would like to put my two cents in. No your 100% Incorrect and you are the reason company's are so against ports. The world does not revolve around you and your "Quality". Some people you know may have for example gotten rid of there previous consoles and are unwilling to spend money to re buy them. This is what makes ports great for the gaming community. So I don't understand why ports are so bad in your opinion? IT'S THE SAME DAMN GAME WITH BETTER GRAPHICS. Again this was 3 years ago, so maybe you changed somewhat, but your so arrogant, and Egotistical in your opinion it makes come off as you being a douche.

P.S I love how to try to convince yourself and rectify that your comment "is for the better of the gaming community". We all know in the long run that is full of BS. You honestly could not give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about video games unless there set to your "qualifications". Instead of a light to the gaming community you are a pariah and please don't ever consider yourself as such. You should honestly be cast out to endless abyss of hell.