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DaveK14 Feb 11, 2016 @ 5:30pm
Crash Issues (Fixed)
Am I the only one who has disabled touchscreen, downloaded 3 different versions of TSFix, and still has issues with crashing every 15 minutes? Just curious.
Last edited by DaveK14; Feb 16, 2016 @ 10:38pm
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Kaldaien Feb 11, 2016 @ 5:35pm 
It is pretty doubtful your problem is related to touch input services then. TSFix 0.2.1 or newer actually tells you when you start it up for the first time if you are on a laptop (or any computer) with touch input services enabled.

Likewise, it'd tell you in tsfix.log as well.
DaveK14 Feb 11, 2016 @ 5:36pm 
Maybe, but i havent found anyone else with the same error. Crashes, sure, but nobody else crashes every 15 minutes if its not a touch input issue, so idk how to work on fixing this.
Kaldaien Feb 11, 2016 @ 5:40pm 
If there are any error messages in logs/tsfix.log or logs/d3d9.log I can take a look at those for you.

Sometimes the D3D9 device will fail to reset and that will bring the entire game down with it. My borderless window mod is designed to avoid those problems though.
DaveK14 Feb 11, 2016 @ 7:15pm 
It will always say secXXXX.tmp has stopped working. the numbers/letters after sec are always different. Do you want a shot of the log anyway?
Kaldaien Feb 11, 2016 @ 7:30pm 
Yeah, I'll give it a shot. If it's not D3D9 or Steam related chances are I cannot do or detect much.

This is one of the reasons VMProtect sucks. Random executables with untraceable crash events.
nelfes Feb 12, 2016 @ 9:34am 
Do the error messages actually tell you anything of import? My game was working fine until I turned steam overlay on to take one screenshot and then BAM crashes every 15 minutes even now that I've disabled it again. Lovely.
Galen Valdrof Feb 15, 2016 @ 10:46pm 
How many of you have a touch screen laptop that you are running this on? I had the same issue. I googled it and it lead me to one of the posts here. Go into the task manager and "end task" of the virtual keyboard, or visual keyboard for the touch screen. This also fixes the 15 minute crash for Darius Chronicals. If you don't have a touch screen then look through your task manager and see if there are any programs running that you don't absolutely need. If the touchscreen program(default starts up with windows) causes this issue it is possible that others can/will as well.
Kaldaien Feb 15, 2016 @ 10:47pm 
Last edited by Kaldaien; Feb 15, 2016 @ 10:48pm
DaveK14 Feb 16, 2016 @ 10:37pm 
Originally posted by Dwandalin:
How many of you have a touch screen laptop that you are running this on? I had the same issue. I googled it and it lead me to one of the posts here. Go into the task manager and "end task" of the virtual keyboard, or visual keyboard for the touch screen. This also fixes the 15 minute crash for Darius Chronicals. If you don't have a touch screen then look through your task manager and see if there are any programs running that you don't absolutely need. If the touchscreen program(default starts up with windows) causes this issue it is possible that others can/will as well.
You, sir, have singlehandedly fixed the only major issue i have with this game. 60 FPS and resolution settings are nice and all, but they dont make the game unplayable like this crash did. Thank you so much!
Kaldaien Feb 16, 2016 @ 10:55pm 
Originally posted by DaveK14:
Originally posted by Dwandalin:
How many of you have a touch screen laptop that you are running this on? I had the same issue. I googled it and it lead me to one of the posts here. Go into the task manager and "end task" of the virtual keyboard, or visual keyboard for the touch screen. This also fixes the 15 minute crash for Darius Chronicals. If you don't have a touch screen then look through your task manager and see if there are any programs running that you don't absolutely need. If the touchscreen program(default starts up with windows) causes this issue it is possible that others can/will as well.
You, sir, have singlehandedly fixed the only major issue i have with this game. 60 FPS and resolution settings are nice and all, but they dont make the game unplayable like this crash did. Thank you so much!

You mean I fixed the game. You responded to the wrong person :)

TSFix automatically does this and then automatically restores input services when the game exits.

I do agree, 60 FPS would be nice, unfortunately VMProtect is preventing that :-\
Last edited by Kaldaien; Feb 16, 2016 @ 10:56pm
DaveK14 Feb 17, 2016 @ 6:26pm 
Definitely not. I had TSFix and the problem still persisted, Dwandalin is the one who fixed the underlying issue. Thanks for your input though Kaldaien.
Kaldaien Feb 17, 2016 @ 6:46pm 
Which version?

0.2.1 is when I began forcefully disabling the service.

That keyboard app is the least of your problems, any random program can start and then load input services on-demand if the service is not disabled. I found that during debugging, which is what lead to my policy change from simply suspending to actually disabling touch input services in version 0.2.1.
DaveK14 Feb 18, 2016 @ 3:00pm 
i had 0.2.1 last time i tried and the error still persisted. after that, i uninstalled TSFix, tried the virtual keyboard fix and it worked.
Kaldaien Feb 18, 2016 @ 3:05pm 
That's a bit of a conundrum. Disabling that service causes the program you killed manually to terminate. It also prevents it from starting back up again.

What you've done here, kills the program but doesn't prevent it from randomly launching again in the future.

By all accounts, the former solution should work better than the latter. Something's not adding up :-\
DaveK14 Feb 18, 2016 @ 3:10pm 
Dunno, but i know it works now. I would guess as long as touchscreen is disabled the keyboard cant reopen in the future.
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