How to get decent surface materials without vents?

[Bacon Overlord®]

I'm trying to farm raw materials, but keep getting vents on my scanner which are all the work of a metal node, but 1/5th to 1/10th the payout. Is there any way to STOP them showing up on the wave scanner? I would almost understand it if the nodes they dropped (since they are larger than normal nodes) gave 10 units or more of the material. But, just three isn't worth the time at all and on low-grav planets those vents usually launch the material into space when you try to harvest it anyway.

It feels like a not-very-well-thought-out addition to surface mining (I haven't played since before legs came out) that still needs work.

[Planewalker]

No. And you wouldn't want them to either.

Because that one time when you need them, you would not not want be able to find them.

Savvy? =)


CMDRs welcome pack wave scanner guide:
https://i.imgur.com/GhXBLYV.png

As you can see, all signals have very distinct signatures, same goes for vents vs mats.
-key is learning to distinguish them, via sound & scanner. (not saying it's super easy ;)

There once was a tool called wavescanner but it's defunct afaik.
It might be outdated: https://www.wavescanner.net/

More from inara: https://inara.cz/data/gallery/36/36328x2001.jpg


Just so you don't think i'm spewing nonsense (won't blame you if you do ;)
-been out planet hopping quite a bit the last few weeks and there are some minor but distinct differences in sound+scanning band for mats vs vents. (vents tend to be "tighter")


Just to add: look for planets with Volcanic activity, preferably 'fumaroles'; they need to be scanned and found just like bio signals: ie DSS and then land in the gasoline green.

[ждун]

There are three places where I farm all raw materials up full within few hours by farming from crystaline shards, which drop only G4 materials.

HIP 36601 - C 1 a - Polonium
HIP 36601 - C 1 d - Ruthenium
HIP 36601 - C 3 b - Tellurium
HIP 36601 - C 5 a - Technetium
Outotz LS-K d8-3 - B 7 b - Ruthenium
Outotz LS-K d8-3 - B 5 a - Yttrium
Outotz LS-K d8-3 - B 5 c - Antimony
HR 3230 - 3AA - Selenium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffqx_j_xRnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkWN_iV5xnQ

For Selenium I suggest HR3230, tons of it. Stack up in 15 minutes.

These are 1000 - 1500 LY away from bubble. With decent jump range you make it there in maybe 20-30 minutes. But its worth it, it takes only 20-30 minutes to farm up full on each of materials farming those shards.

[Planewalker]

Originally posted by ждун:

There are three places where I farm all raw materials up full within few hours by farming from crystaline shards, which drop only G4 materials.

Neat, wasn't sure how much or if they were running proper again. Good to know.

[Sighman]

Originally posted by Planewalker:

Originally posted by ждун:

There are three places where I farm all raw materials up full within few hours by farming from crystaline shards, which drop only G4 materials.

Neat, wasn't sure how much or if they were running proper again. Good to know.

They've worked for 23 of the 24 months Odyssey has been available. Only the first release had an issue.

[ждун]

Originally posted by Planewalker:

Neat, wasn't sure how much or if they were running proper again. Good to know.

works good, but its a little bit different as in horizons. Now the shards are not only at geological or bio sites, but groups of shards basically spawn anywhere. Its a good idea to fly low over surface for a minute or two until finding a larger group of crystals.

[Planewalker]

Good info, duly noted.

Eh, can't remember for how long it was an issue and i only visited the braintress and crystal forests once waay back when they were added to the game. Did take a while to get out there.

[Bacon Overlord®]

Originally posted by Planewalker:

No. And you wouldn't want them to either.

Because that one time when you need them, you would not not want be able to find them.

Savvy? =)


CMDRs welcome pack wave scanner guide:
https://i.imgur.com/GhXBLYV.png

As you can see, all signals have very distinct signatures, same goes for vents vs mats.
-key is learning to distinguish them, via sound & scanner. (not saying it's super easy ;)

There once was a tool called wavescanner but it's defunct afaik.
It might be outdated: https://www.wavescanner.net/

More from inara: https://inara.cz/data/gallery/36/36328x2001.jpg


Just so you don't think i'm spewing nonsense (won't blame you if you do ;)
-been out planet hopping quite a bit the last few weeks and there are some minor but distinct differences in sound+scanning band for mats vs vents. (vents tend to be "tighter")


Just to add: look for planets with Volcanic activity, preferably 'fumaroles'; they need to be scanned and found just like bio signals: ie DSS and then land in the gasoline green.

No, I get that the vents are in the middle of the spectrum... but, that doesn't stop them from gumming up the scanner and not allowing you to see other worthwhile metal nodes.

That was my point.

[Bacon Overlord®]

Originally posted by ждун:

There are three places where I farm all raw materials up full within few hours by farming from crystaline shards, which drop only G4 materials.

HIP 36601 - C 1 a - Polonium
HIP 36601 - C 1 d - Ruthenium
HIP 36601 - C 3 b - Tellurium
HIP 36601 - C 5 a - Technetium
Outotz LS-K d8-3 - B 7 b - Ruthenium
Outotz LS-K d8-3 - B 5 a - Yttrium
Outotz LS-K d8-3 - B 5 c - Antimony
HR 3230 - 3AA - Selenium

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffqx_j_xRnc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkWN_iV5xnQ

For Selenium I suggest HR3230, tons of it. Stack up in 15 minutes.

These are 1000 - 1500 LY away from bubble. With decent jump range you make it there in maybe 20-30 minutes. But its worth it, it takes only 20-30 minutes to farm up full on each of materials farming those shards.

Sweet, great info. However, outotz is like 1700 Ly from here. Is that really the only location for antimony and yttrium? I've seen that system mentioned several times in pre-odyssey threads.

EDIT: Better question: These aren't crystalline nodes that get blown into orbit, right? The whole vent thing is useless IMHO. Higher amount of work, higher amount of danger (almost always craggy and if you run over an active vent... game over) and only 1/5th to 1/10th the payout of even just outcroppings.

[Sir Crashalot]

While it is still arguably the best place to farm, it is a long journey and forests can be hard to find. I found that logging over to horizon no longer works the way it did when I last played, where I could just zero in on bio sites.

There is an alternative, inside the bubble but it isn't guaranteed to be quicker, just closer (although as each planet is in a different system so you will probably end up travelling further over all).

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/11l9gek/raw_material_farming_method_goodbye_hip_36601/

Overall though, you will probably find it similar to vent harvesting as each braintree bears one of several different grades of material. The one you are looking for is Phloem Excretion for the highest tier. If you find a bunch of these together, harvest them then log off and repeat until full.

Edit: it looks like a gold nugget.

[Bacon Overlord®]

Originally posted by Sir Crashalot:

While it is still arguably the best place to farm, it is a long journey and forests can be hard to find. I found that logging over to horizon no longer works the way it did when I last played, where I could just zero in on bio sites.

There is an alternative, inside the bubble but it isn't guaranteed to be quicker, just closer (although as each planet is in a different system so you will probably end up travelling further over all).

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/11l9gek/raw_material_farming_method_goodbye_hip_36601/

Overall though, you will probably find it similar to vent harvesting as each braintree bears one of several different grades of material. The one you are looking for is Phloem Excretion for the highest tier. If you find a bunch of these together, harvest them then log off and repeat until full.

Edit: it looks like a gold nugget.

Thanks! I did go to braintrees in HR 3230 for Selenium. Even though they only give one unit each, there were forests of them so it wasn't nearly as grindy.

[Chitoloco]

Originally posted by Sir Crashalot:

While it is still arguably the best place to farm, it is a long journey and forests can be hard to find.

You can also use coordinates to land in a dense forest spot. Like these:

HIP36601 C 1 a Polonium: -57.4599, 126.9543

HIP36601 C 1 d Ruthenium: -51.2639, 14.7291

HIP36601 C 3 b Telluruim: -17.6769, -55.1800

HIP36601 C 5 a Technetium: 3.5500, 111.5415

Edit: And.... >400 LY further away:

Outotz LS-K d8-3, B 5 a Yttrium: -1.9216 -145.7013

Outotz LS-K d8-3, B 5 c Antimony: -62.4905 80.2426

[1Nf@MOu$( Mr.Thorp )]

i asked this the other day and was told to just go mining. i remember pulling random materials, but not enough to fill anything up. I just deleted that one, thanks for the new thread and some new ideas. I filled up on a lot of materials before horizons went away, now its time to replenish. I just wish ,y old " geo site" planet list was still valid.

When you scan the planet, and get vents, et.. Do you want the lighter or darker blue? like which color means more density?

[Chitoloco]

Originally posted by 1Nf@MOu$( Mr.Thorp ):

i asked this the other day and was told to just go mining. i remember pulling random materials, but not enough to fill anything up. I just deleted that one, thanks for the new thread and some new ideas. I filled up on a lot of materials before horizons went away, now its time to replenish. I just wish ,y old " geo site" planet list was still valid.

When you scan the planet, and get vents, et.. Do you want the lighter or darker blue? like which color means more density?

The different shades of blue correspond to different topographic areas/terrain ie darker is more mountainous, lighter is flatter etc. The coords I listed above are player provided pinpoints where there is a known density of those signals but they can potentially be found anywhere that the dss scanner marks blue.

edit:
Just wanted to add that when it comes to exobio there are certain bio signals that tend to spawn on certain types of terrain so I think that's where the confusion comes from.

[Bacon Overlord®]

Great ideas, folks! Thanks so much for all the responses!

[Capt. Davinci]

From a recent rare earth raw mat farming trip I made. There are probably a few redundant coordinates to suggestions already made in some of the most excellent replies before mine.

RARE EARTH RAW MATS IN HIP 36601 SYSTEM

Polonium at planet body C 1 a... at coordinates:
-57.4599, 126.9543
-31.034637, 14.85098
-28.25, -2.54
-25.14, -2.24
-25.13, -4.30
28.51, 15.25

Ruthenium at planet body C 1 d... at the following coordinates:
-51.2639, 14.7291
-24.6, 105.35
20.2934, -35.7715

Telluruim at planet body C 3 b... at the following coordinates:
-37.73, 8.32
-17.6769, -55.18
-1.84,-39.04
0.3339, -105.0335
63.77, 131.35
63.82, 131.59
64.00, 133.10
64.58, 133.13
67.00, 131.75

Technetium at planet body C 5 a... at the following coordinates:
-71.13, 116.04
3.5500, 111.5415
3.746, 78.68
3.93, 78.66

Selenium at planet body C 5 a... at the following coordinates: -15.1511, 49.2790

Vanadium (also can find Nickel and Tin) at planet body A 1... at the following coordinates: 47.0293, -16.2330

RARE EARTH MATS in other systems

Yttrium in system Outotz LS-K d8-3 at planet body B 5 a...
at the following coordinates:
-1.9216 -145.7013
16.7966, -40.1293

Yttrium in system Outotz GZ-M c21-0 at planet body B 3...
at the following coordinates:
37.36, -30.24
37.4, -30.20

Antimony in system Outotz JI-J d9-4 at planet body B 7 B...
at the following coordinates:
52.23, -116.25
32.25, 176.73
32.7, 177.65

Antimony in system Outotz LS-K d8-3 at planet body B 5 c...
at the following coordinates:
-62.4905, 80.2426
-66.0147, 83.6553

Selenium in system HR 3230 at planet body 3 a..
at the following coordinates:
52.6, -165.8786

edit: fixed the formatting on my post, didn't copy from my spreadsheet correctly.