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I had 17 billion before the war and I've still made billions more blasting the goids. Goid blasting is fun.
YMMV but for me fun content is the reward, credits are nice on top but it's just keeping score.
The game is a sandbox, do what you want.
Nothing is stopping you from doing your own thing still. Stop soap boxing and trying to ruin other people's fun.
Then we have Elite... a one-to-one scale model of the Milkyway, and there are just two bubbles (if we count in Colonia) and ONE SINGLE alien species.
That's what I would like to see change: stuff the galaxy with new beings, communication, multiple wars, not just one. And massive fast track trade routes across the galaxy.
That's how you evolve a game, the times of empty galaxies and single-species alien encounters are gone, they belong to 19th ct* thinking and game developing, and that was based on limited technology.
Edit:
20th ct, let's be fair :))
Obviously I'm not saying experience is not a factor in Elite or anything in life.
My point was that Elite gives you massive power compared to other players (other things being equal eg experience) IF you get credits and engineer mats. These things you get by doing very LOW skill, high time repetition of simple game actions otherwise known as 'grind'.
People are fine with becoming more powerful in the game by simply putting in low skill, low creativity inputs. They collect their HIGH participation award for these inputs.
However the idea that some new power in the game could be introduced that unlocked BOTH by repetition AND by skill, for example, killing Hydras is something current Elite players seem strongly averse to, as if it would be going against the game's DNA.
That Hydras should only give the same award that other activities give and at a similar OR SLOWER rate. They won't even entertain the idea that killing a Hydra could drop say 30 Datamined Wake Exceptions so that we can use skill to at least bypass tedium.
If a Thargoid only gives me what I can get elsewhere then the reason I have for engaging in this war is roleplay. Not enough for me personally, so the war should end for me because there is no way I'm going to grind interceptors for months or years just to see icons in the bubble change and get NOTHING for my pilot other than tokens I already have too many of and can get from less risky and less failure prone game activities.
The game must immediately stop everything the OP doesn't enjoy so that everybody is forced to have the correct fun, it's for their own good.
That sounds like NMS, and that game has many problems all of its own. Chief amongst them is that when you arrive in any system you can pretty much experience everything the game has to offer without going anywhere else.
That's the bit I'm disagreeing with.
A player can grind their way to a Corvette by doing CEOS runs, and relog/grind the materials to G5 everything on it, and still be an absolutely hopeless waste of space when they run into their first experienced player determined to kill them.
But against NPC pirates they'll be fine, and that's why skill trumps ship and engineering, because I can fly around in a RES [Low] in an unengineered sidewinder and earn millions.
As for competing against other players in PVP, anyone who cheesed their way to a powerful ship should avoid open like the plague, because they're a sitting duck for experienced players in far less powerful ships.
Huh? On my main, I'm almost Elite 1 in combat, and the bulk of my credits earned from AX came from killing Hydras.
Again, you're completely wrong here.
The new missions to 'kill 1 hydra' or 'kill 2 hydras' offer 10 grade 5 materials as a reward, plus 55 million credits.
Four people in the wing take as many of these missions as they can find. You kill 2 hydras. You cross-share the missions and each commander *from each mission* gets 40 x grade 5 materials and 200+ million credits PLUS the combat bonds.
I've been in situations where we've stacked 3-4 hydra missions each, and 2 hydra kills literally filled 2-3 of my grade 5 material slots.
Teaming up and killing hydras in CZ is the biggest gold rush the game has ever seen, both in terms of a river of credits AND more G5 materials (encoded/manufactured) than you can poke a stick at. I have to keep trading across to other categories to empty out the relevant G5 slots.
And what do you have to do to participate? Take an unengineered, unshielded python full of hull reinforcements, heatsink launchers, and 5 x enhanced AX multicannon (bought with credits) to a conflict zone in the AXI private group. Join a wing, take all the hydra missions, land a few shots on the hydra and try not to die. (If you do, you respawn at the port right in the CZ)
Sharing the missions afterwards will make you rich and fill your mats, the combat is amazing fun and looks spectacular, and there is NO grinding anywhere to be seen.
Oh, that hurts in the irony.
You are also `soap boxing`. No one is `ruining` anyone else's fun by b****ing on a the steam forums. It's not like people are moaning in, in-game chat like BF 2042.
If anything, you are the one `ruining` your own experience by choosing to read this thread, and then b****ing about the thread. How wonderfully brilliant.
Go back to Pah-Wraiths Sisko.
When a bunch of grumpy people booh someone who's preaching on a soapbox they're not exactly trying to tell others what to do or think, merely showing their unhappiness.
Seems it spoiled Mr. Soul's good mood, who are you to tell others how they should or shouldn't be feeling? ;)
Action = reaction, if you put up a post then don't be surprised if you get responses. Both positive and negative, just the way it should be. If you don't like that... then maybe don't post or don't read opinionated threads. Easy!
Just because you don't like someones (negative) opinion doesn't mean that they have no point at all "because". Fortunately cancel culture isn't a thing on Steam...
No Mans? I don't own that game so I wouldn't know.
But I wasn't really thinking about simplifying Elite, I was more thinking about having 'goids in this part of the galaxy, another species in that part (maybe a more peaceful or trade orientated race) and so on.
So you wouldn't have 'everything in one place', quite the opposite: You'd get the opportunity to pick your fave sector, maybe, kind of like having different neighborhoods or districts in a mega city but at the same time keep vast, empty, unexplored sectors of the galaxy as well.
Instead of just one bubble we could have 17. And with different species & races, all within the already known Elite content like pirating, wars, trading etc.
No it hasn't hit here yet, thankfully.
However, I never told anyone how they should be feeling. Don't care, not my responsibility, and not anyone else's either.
The fact is, this is a `public` forum for Steam users, and any one is able to express whatever opinion they like within the Rules™ expressed by Valve.
Sure one can express both negative and positive feed back. Compounding that negative by just moaning about it, is not really all that helpful, and just makes the entire thread even worse then it is. But hey, not gonna stop ya.
If someone gets blubbery eyed over someones else's post, that is no ones fault but the one who got blubbery eyed.
They are free to ignore the post, go to a different thread, or ya know, get off the forum and go play the game you like more then others in this thread. Ya know, very novel idea's for a human beings with a brain, not to mention a probable adult.
I came back in part because I was reassured that it was very easy to completely avoid the Thargoid War, and that's clearly the case. 99.999999% of the galaxy is completely unaffected.
Addendum: I was just searching for David Braben's comments, and I'm finding Reddit discussions from eight years ago expressing impatience for the inevitable Thargoid War. A lot of players have been anticipating this for a *long* time.
And now it seems a bunch of players are tired *OF* it, which just proves the old adage that you can please some of the people all of the time, or you can please all of the people some of the time, but you cannot please all of the people all of the time.
Players: BURN THE BUBBLE
FDev: Writes an engaging two-year narrative that leads to a massive thargoid invasion
Players: NOT LIKE THAT