Extremely hard to see

[ZombieHunter]

It is very hard to see other ships when leaving stations now. The new shaders are TOO DARK. I can barely see other ships coming into the mailslot.

[Princess Pilfer]

Space is dark.
Turn on Night Vision, it'll highlight ships (and anything else) in dark places.

(Side note, this was *already* extremely useful in horizons, when you're careening around an asteroid field in the shadow of a gas giant in a dogfight at 250 meters per second, the last thing you want is ambiguity about what is around you, I do not understand how people have just not noticed that the game has had a built in 'it's too dark to see' button for years)

[The Empress]

right space is dark if you dont own night vision sitt iside your space craft and slightly bump the head onto the radar console this will turn on a
light :-)

[Joerg Baermann]

Not sure, but I have seen a lot of gamers missing out on one thing, setting up their monitor for accuracy, it makes a huge difference.
First of all, turn off dynamic contrast and any other automatic features that manipulate brightness, contrast and color, then calibrate it, to get a good guideline see if you can find it on a site like RTings and follow their recommended settings, you can always add more saturation afterwards if you prefer.

Also make sure to check the in game gamma settings to ensure you can see all 3 symbols, first one should be barely visible if set correct.

There is really not much difference apart from black being proper black now, got no problem seing other ships comming into stations nor outside in the dark without nightvision, it does help with nightvision though, especially for combat, picking up them parts afterwards.

[ZombieHunter]

Sorry I have 2500 hours in the game and this is too dark. The problem isn't space the problem is the shaders overexpose on bright lights. So they overexpose on the mailslot blinding you and then the ships are underexposed as the shaders adjust to the reduced light levels.

Same thing happens near stars. They over expose on the stars blinding you and then underexpose when you leave the stars behind you. It is not a good shader lighting model.

There are no issues in space combat b/c everything is dark and the ambient level is low. But when the ambient level ramps up the shaders go to crap. Classic shader issue that should have been resolved before launch.

[Joerg Baermann]

Originally posted by ZombieHunter:

Sorry I have 2500 hours in the game and this is too dark. The problem isn't space the problem is the shaders overexpose on bright lights. So they overexpose on the mailslot blinding you and then the ships are underexposed as the shaders adjust to the reduced light levels.

Same thing happens near stars. They over expose on the stars blinding you and then underexpose when you leave the stars behind you. It is not a good shader lighting model.

In that case the problem isn't that it is to dark.
Does your monitor have any automatic features like dynamic contrast?
What does your configs look like, I really got no problems seeing ships comming to and trough the mailslot.

[Charlie Foxtrot]

Originally posted by Princess Pilfer:

Space is dark.
Turn on Night Vision, it'll highlight ships (and anything else) in dark places.

(Side note, this was *already* extremely useful in horizons, when you're careening around an asteroid field in the shadow of a gas giant in a dogfight at 250 meters per second, the last thing you want is ambiguity about what is around you, I do not understand how people have just not noticed that the game has had a built in 'it's too dark to see' button for years)

idk what you see but even with gamma all the way up and NV turned on it's still darker than Horizon's dark side of the planets

[The Empress]

yes Zomby This is noticeable inside the station too.

[lefty1117]

all you have to do is look at an icy planet on the FSS or system map to see that something is broken with the lighting. I don't think this is intentional, I think it's bugged. They couldn't possibly think this was an improvement... and there seems to have been zero comment from them on this issue that I've seen, so to me yeah it's bugged and they haven't figured it out yet.

[Chro]

Yes, the new lighting system is completely borked, everything is much darker and uglier than in Horizons, also Bloom is not working at all

[Princess Pilfer]

Originally posted by Charlie Foxtrot:

Originally posted by Princess Pilfer:

Space is dark.
Turn on Night Vision, it'll highlight ships (and anything else) in dark places.

(Side note, this was *already* extremely useful in horizons, when you're careening around an asteroid field in the shadow of a gas giant in a dogfight at 250 meters per second, the last thing you want is ambiguity about what is around you, I do not understand how people have just not noticed that the game has had a built in 'it's too dark to see' button for years)

idk what you see but even with gamma all the way up and NV turned on it's still darker than Horizon's dark side of the planets

It's supposed to be. Space is dark. They wanted a more grounded look, so they turned the ambient lighting way down and made the directional lighting a lot stronger.

But with NV on, if anything is even remotely close to you, it's highlighted in big obvious green lines that are the same brightness no matter how dark it is, so you won't run into things when it's dark.

[Charlie Foxtrot]

Originally posted by Princess Pilfer:

But with NV on, if anything is even remotely close to you, it's highlighted in big obvious green lines that are the same brightness no matter how dark it is, so you won't run into things when it's dark.

I already said it's darker than Horizon's non-NV'd dark planets with NV on in Odysee. Imagine living in the year 3300 and Night Vision functions working worse than 1980s NVGs

[lefty1117]

It's broken. Look at the text chat while in-ship, you'll see the colors are very faded. I already mentioned the way the ice planets appear washed out on sysmap and FSS. The ship UI is less vibrant, as if the color saturation has been turned down. There's very little color variation for the stars anymore on the skybox. The Milky Way in the sky is way too faded and brown. The headlamps don't project as far as they should, there is a stark end to their coverage instead of a diffuse fading of the light, for both ship headlights and the helmet lamp. It's broken.

[ShelLuser]

I can definitely agree that the graphics are messed up... Although I have my settings set on high I can no longer see the colours of the lane indicators when leaving the station. The red blinking light in the middle is no problem, but the ones which matter... bland or no longer existing.

Unfortunately the DLC is hardly optimized, and that applies to almost everything.

[Princess Pilfer]

Originally posted by Charlie Foxtrot:

Originally posted by Princess Pilfer:

But with NV on, if anything is even remotely close to you, it's highlighted in big obvious green lines that are the same brightness no matter how dark it is, so you won't run into things when it's dark.

I already said it's darker than Horizon's non-NV'd dark planets with NV on in Odysee. Imagine living in the year 3300 and Night Vision functions working worse than 1980s NVGs

That's not my experience at all, so I kinda don't believe you.
https://i.imgur.com/6HSCw91.png

[Charlie Foxtrot]

Originally posted by Princess Pilfer:

That's not my experience at all, so I kinda don't believe you.
https://i.imgur.com/6HSCw91.png

interesting, no other rebuttal or advice other than "ummmm. Excuse me, sweaty but I don't believe you" when this entire thread and other threads are literally about the whole game being extremely dark. I'd give a clown award but I don't think we need to feed your ego any further with steam points.

Don't worry, I will post comparison shots between horizons and odyssey when I get back home