Suits' Effectiveness / Best Suit

[Haigen]

It seems they are bad ballanced, as gold and white suits are basically providing the same income increase, but the gold one costs 40 gold while the white's price is set to 140.

For the overview:

Gold Suit: 2x profit boost. Cost: 40 gold
Blue Suit: 3x profit boost. Cost: 50 gold
White Suit: 2x investiment's speed boost. Cost: 140 gold
Green Suit: +10% Angel Investors effectiveness. Cost: 240 gold

It seems the Blue Suit is overall the best, for it costs much lesser than white and green suits AND providing more effectiveness in profit increase.

So unless you are able to wear several suits at once, there is no need to purchase any other suits than blue or golden one.

[Trash]

I hear people say White is best, but there seems to be a Blue vs. White debate going on.

[qaccy]

At x0 multiplier: Blue > white
At x3 multiplier: Blue = white
At higher than x3 multiplier: White > blue

This is because the blue (and gold) suit stacks additively with profit multipliers and so loses effectiveness as you obtain more of them, whereas the white suit is always an effective x2 profit increase.

EDIT: I have no idea how the white suit interacts with flux capacitors. If it functions as an additive increase similar to how gold/blue work with profit multipliers, then I guess each suit's effectiveness is influenced by how many you have of both of the two boosts.

[Adeadpsych0_0X]

Originally posted by qaccy:

This is because the blue (and gold) suit stacks additively with profit multipliers

ah thank you

[VbHD]

No such 'best' suit period. Only 'best for you'.

Spent money on planet multipliers? Blue and Gold won't do much for you then, as its additive. But for free players, its gonna be hard to beat something like a 3x bonus.

A lot of people say Green isn't very good, thats because they dont have enough damned angels. You get end-game, your angels get into ridiculous numbers, late-game it's quite hard to argue Green isn't best.

[qaccy]

Originally posted by VbHD:

No such 'best' suit period. Only 'best for you'.

Spent money on planet multipliers? Blue and Gold won't do much for you then, as its additive. But for free players, its gonna be hard to beat something like a 3x bonus.

A lot of people say Green isn't very good, thats because they dont have enough damned angels. You get end-game, your angels get into ridiculous numbers, late-game it's quite hard to argue Green isn't best.

If you understand how the bonuses work, it's very easy to argue that green is the worst. You have a 30% angel effect on the Earth already, green adds 10% to bring it up to 40% and that's worse than even the gold suit. Moon has 11% which goes to 21% and that's still worse than the gold suit. Green is a horrifyingly overpriced piece of trash even though it's the best suit on Mars, because Mars doesn't need any boosts to be finished inside of a couple of weeks.

[VbHD]

Like I said mate, eventually you will have enough angels for it to be best. I also said if you have spent nothing of the game ever, it will take a heck of a long time to get better than a x3 bonus.

However green has one thing going for it, it actually DOES do more as you play longer. Which is what I already stated.

[Nerd^3(USA)]

got my first achievement on march 26th. that was the 100 lemons. finished mars a couple days ago. have already reset 3 or 4 times since that time.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=662571574

[qaccy]

Originally posted by VbHD:

Like I said mate, eventually you will have enough angels for it to be best. I also said if you have spent nothing of the game ever, it will take a heck of a long time to get better than a x3 bonus.

However green has one thing going for it, it actually DOES do more as you play longer. Which is what I already stated.

You're still completely failing to understand how the green suit works. It doesn't matter how many angels you have, what matters is the % effect they have. Going from 30% effectiveness to 40% effectiveness on Earth is only a 1.3x profit increase, regardless of whether you have 100 angels or 100 octogintillion. It's a terrible investment.

[sfnhltb]

Originally posted by VbHD:

Like I said mate, eventually you will have enough angels for it to be best. I also said if you have spent nothing of the game ever, it will take a heck of a long time to get better than a x3 bonus.

However green has one thing going for it, it actually DOES do more as you play longer. Which is what I already stated.

On Earth the Green suit makes your Angels ~33% more effective, thus increasing your overall dps ~33%.

The white suit increases your dps directly 100%, including any effects of angels. Thus the White suit on earth is always 3 times better than the Green suit, except if you have very few angels then the white suit exponentially becomes even better (it is infinitely better if you have 0 angels).

Originally posted by qaccy:

At x0 multiplier: Blue > white
At x3 multiplier: Blue = white
At higher than x3 multiplier: White > blue

This is because the blue (and gold) suit stacks additively with profit multipliers and so loses effectiveness as you obtain more of them, whereas the white suit is always an effective x2 profit increase.

EDIT: I have no idea how the white suit interacts with flux capacitors. If it functions as an additive increase similar to how gold/blue work with profit multipliers, then I guess each suit's effectiveness is influenced by how many you have of both of the two boosts.

The White suit is not additive to flux capacitors, it always doubles your dps regardless of other gold bought bonuses. Thus it is nearly always best on Earth and (very marginally) the Moon, while Green is best on Mars. As you point out the only exception being the Blue suit is best on Earth or the Moon if you have no multipliers at all. Blue and White are the same on earth if you have 3x multipliers, and White is better for anything more than than x3. Blue is better than White on the Moon for 3x multiplier, but slightly worse at 6x.

[bmendonc]

ok, so as a free user with no multipliers except the first megabucks boost and the planet boosted 10x for gilding all the money makers, it is best to buy the blue or white suit? I have 140 gold atm, and I really don't know what to spend it on, I have done all the unlocks on Mars and the moon, but im at 4500 newspapers atm on Earth

[Haigen]

Originally posted by bmendonc:

ok, so as a free user with no multipliers except the first megabucks boost and the planet boosted 10x for gilding all the money makers, it is best to buy the blue or white suit? I have 140 gold atm, and I really don't know what to spend it on, I have done all the unlocks on Mars and the moon, but im at 4500 newspapers atm on Earth

Blue suit appears to fit best for you.

@sfnftb The mars doesnt need any gilds/multipliers/suits at all. It is completed very easily, it is thought to be a sandbox / test planet. The moon can be finished soon enough, after you beat the 2880 oxygen wall. So it is better to compare what suits are best for the earth, little the moon.

Originally posted by Koloss:

It seems the Blue Suit is overall the best, for it costs much lesser than white and green suits AND providing more effectiveness in profit increase.

The white suit should be considered to be bought only for those people who spent much of money on the game and have many/high multipliers on earth (and enough gold to buy this expensive, white suit).

[DiMono]

Originally posted by Koloss:

The mars doesnt need any gilds/multipliers/suits at all. It is completed very easily, it is thought to be a sandbox / test planet.

The devs said when Mars came out that it was their intention to provide a different experience on each planet. Earth was meant to be the normal one, Moon was meant to be the slow one, and Mars was meant to be the fast one. The Moon used to be more impossible than Earth, until they rebalanced it. Now Earth is the hard one, and the Moon is the normal one.

The white suit should be considered to be bought only for those people who spent much of money on the game and have many/high multipliers on earth (and enough gold to buy this expensive, white suit).

Incorrect. The white suit is the best one for anyone who has at least a single x3 multiplier on Earth. If you have spent any of your gold on planet multipliers for Earth, or if you plan to in the future, then the white suit is the better option.

[Haigen]

The white suit doubles your income, so if you have a x3 multiplier on earth, blue suit will also double your income. The difference is blue costs 50 god, while white's price is 140 gold.

[Reachground]

http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/603856-jons-handy-dandy-suit-guide

[bmendonc]

Originally posted by Reachground:

http://www.kongregate.com/forums/4725-general/topics/603856-jons-handy-dandy-suit-guide

+1
blue is better than white and red, and gold, but green is the best