ARK: Survival Evolved

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Mr_Hig Dec 31, 2023 @ 3:36am
Engrams.
Are engrams an influence from scientology, even if that aspect (the definition/word origin) was unintentionally overlooked?
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zerassar Dec 31, 2023 @ 4:11am 
The word predates scientologies definition of it.

From the wiki "A postulated physical or biochemical change in neural tissue that represents a memory. "

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/engram

That definition is also included in the Oxford languages list.
Mr_Hig Dec 31, 2023 @ 4:32am 
Noted. It is however used as defined in scientology, and it is as a concept ultimately metaphysical in nature. So then how would one know where the devs or writers got it from?
zerassar Dec 31, 2023 @ 6:03am 
Originally posted by Mr_Hig:
Noted. It is however used as defined in scientology, and it is as a concept ultimately metaphysical in nature. So then how would one know where the devs or writers got it from?
Given the scifi aspect of the game I feel thats compelling they were going towards the neural tissue aspect given we're bioengineered creatures.
Mr_Hig Dec 31, 2023 @ 6:40am 
Originally posted by zerassar:
Originally posted by Mr_Hig:
Noted. It is however used as defined in scientology, and it is as a concept ultimately metaphysical in nature. So then how would one know where the devs or writers got it from?
Given the scifi aspect of the game I feel thats compelling they were going towards the neural tissue aspect given we're bioengineered creatures.
I agree with you.
Mez Koo Dec 31, 2023 @ 10:50am 
Are they not like destiny 2 engrams where you're encoding physical matter into a digital format to be 3d printed later into something physical again?

I figured we were "buying" specific engrams from whatever implanted the wrist device which then 3d prints what the engram contains with our materials.
Mr_Hig Dec 31, 2023 @ 11:00am 
Originally posted by 🦊 Hermit:
This may be relevant:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/346110/discussions/0/3887227420045678611/#c3887227420046382988
Ah, so my assumption was correct. Thank you.
Mr_Hig Dec 31, 2023 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by Mez Koo:
Are they not like destiny 2 engrams where you're encoding physical matter into a digital format to be 3d printed later into something physical again?

I figured we were "buying" specific engrams from whatever implanted the wrist device which then 3d prints what the engram contains with our materials.
Yeah, I mean it's an interesting idea gameplay-wise, though it doesn't have much depth beyond the term they chose. Vaguely ties in with the concept of the game overall, though, which is nice.
retsam1 Dec 31, 2023 @ 12:11pm 
Originally posted by Mr_Hig:
Are engrams an influence from scientology, even if that aspect (the definition/word origin) was unintentionally overlooked?



At the 18:35 mark of this Gamasutra video from 2017, the interviewer starts with the question of engrams to Jeremy Stieglitz. Jeremy states that the concept idea for Engrams was inspired from Scientology but he states he's not a Scientologist but found the idea of engrams in its belief system interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCz0nkVBuSc&t=1116s
Last edited by retsam1; Dec 31, 2023 @ 12:12pm
Mez Koo Dec 31, 2023 @ 1:20pm 
Originally posted by Mr_Hig:
Originally posted by Mez Koo:
Are they not like destiny 2 engrams where you're encoding physical matter into a digital format to be 3d printed later into something physical again?

I figured we were "buying" specific engrams from whatever implanted the wrist device which then 3d prints what the engram contains with our materials.
Yeah, I mean it's an interesting idea gameplay-wise, though it doesn't have much depth beyond the term they chose. Vaguely ties in with the concept of the game overall, though, which is nice.
Much closer than you think, sure its not a thing embedded in our wrist but we do rely on little robot guy to act as a digital inventory and in both cases we gather loot which gets digitized and then use said loot to create weapons or tools from patterns or engrams.
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