Kingdom of Denmark (1.4 Update)

[Tempus Domini est nunc]

After this new update i would like you developers to give it a try... Maybe im bad at the game or maybe you somehow ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up this games balance so much that you can't even make a single +income of 0.10... What is wrong with you people?

I understand that Kingdom Of Denmark has a huge dept to fix early on in the game but it's not a fix if you have to take a new loan followed by a new loan each third month or so untill you have a dept of 500 or 1000 dukates and then somehow try to pay all that back... I don't think there is any historical about this and i have searched all over the internet for any proof but there is no way i can find any historical proof that Kingdom of Denmarh had to loan a 1.000 dukates.

So, when you roll out a new "update" you have to re-visit all countries in year 1337 and check for balances issues, right!? I mean that's pretty obvious.. But it seems it's something you clearly as developers have failed at otherwise "players" would not sit and complain about it would they!?

[Dankmaster]

It's not that hard bro, Pray for artists or art via event then sell. War sweden for scania and the fish province that has giga modifier on it. Danish Economy is funded by fish early game.

[Tempus Domini est nunc]

Originally posted by Dankmaster:

It's not that hard bro, Pray for artists or art via event then sell. War sweden for scania and the fish province that has giga modifier on it. Danish Economy is funded by fish early game.

Not that hard? Bro, have you even tried out Kingdom of Denmark in update 1.4!? Because i refuse to believe you have. Not to mention danish economy should and was never funded by fish ! :D

[tonypa]

Originally posted by Tempus Domini est nunc:

i have searched all over the internet for any proof but there is no way i can find any historical proof that Kingdom of Denmarh had to loan a 1.000 dukates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_II_of_Denmark

Jutland for example was mortgaged for 100,000 silver marks which had to be "laid on the table all at once" or the mortgage was not redeemed. It was an enormous mortgage and impossible to pay. Count Gerhard took all of Jutland as his personal property. Count Johan did the same on Funen and Zealand.

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Upon his death Denmark ceased being a formal kingdom, and for the next eight years it was subdued by various mortgagees to German military rule.

[Tempus Domini est nunc]

Originally posted by tonypa:

Originally posted by Tempus Domini est nunc:

i have searched all over the internet for any proof but there is no way i can find any historical proof that Kingdom of Denmarh had to loan a 1.000 dukates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_II_of_Denmark

Jutland for example was mortgaged for 100,000 silver marks which had to be "laid on the table all at once" or the mortgage was not redeemed. It was an enormous mortgage and impossible to pay. Count Gerhard took all of Jutland as his personal property. Count Johan did the same on Funen and Zealand.

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Upon his death Denmark ceased being a formal kingdom, and for the next eight years it was subdued by various mortgagees to German military rule.

The game starts in 1337 which means Christopher II of Denmark is dead or at least should be when the game start. Because acording to wikipedia he died in year 1332.
Im not sure what you're trying to say by copy pasta something from wikipedia but hey I am aware that Denmark is in dept from the start of the game. It was not a problem in the last recent updates but Kingdom Of Denmark in this new update 1.4 is broken - like that other dude sayin, it's easy bro (Before trying out 1.4 update)

[rickerts]

They're saying that the scenario Denmark is in in is pretty historically accurate. Denmark was pretty muched Fed at this point in history. Even when Gerhard was killed, and the king returned, they repayed loans by mortgaging off other pieces of land and incredibly high taxes to pay one loan off, then turned around and did the same on that loan, etc, it was very much a whack a mole situation for quite a while

[Tempus Domini est nunc]

Originally posted by rickerts:

They're saying that the scenario Denmark is in in is pretty historically accurate. Denmark was pretty muched Fed at this point in history. Even when Gerhard was killed, and the king returned, they repayed loans by mortgaging off other pieces of land and incredibly high taxes to pay one loan off, then turned around and did the same on that loan, etc, it was very much a whack a mole situation for quite a while

Ah okay well i think the balance is off in 1.4 then (Not talking about the historical part here) because in the last couple of updates i could pay off the loans before the plague hit ish. But after 1.4 update i started over and i cannot even make a +0.10 income other than around 3.00+ income i have for a month or two when the game starts and then it's just -income for the rest of the game (or so it feels) because i left the game after the game forced me to keep taking new loans. Before this update you could at least get a +income somewhat and slowly pay off the debt. Im not sure what to do atm in this 1.4 update.. Normally i would start off by deleting the castles and temples in Kingdom of Denmark to remove all this maintaince buildings cost and such. But even when that is done you still will never really hit that +income.. So i donno really what to do at this point.. I could probally start off the game with taking a bunch of loans and building something which would give me a profit somewhat in the future but it would still force me to take all this loans and the "dukates or gold" will rapidly increases you more loans i take. How are you gonna comeback from this!?

[Krozan]

Start =>

Release Estonia as Fiefdom
Sell art to bohemia
Delete all loan

You can play with good income, u dont even have to sell scania to sw

[Tempus Domini est nunc]

Originally posted by Krozan:

Start =>

Release Estonia as Fiefdom
Sell art to bohemia
Delete all loan

You can play with good income, u dont even have to sell scania to sw

I already did release Estonia and it did not help. Are we talking about new update 1.4?.
Not sure what you mean by sell art to bohemia and delete all loans i have!? Can i do that? Do kingdom of Denmark has art of 250+ gold dukates i can just sell?

I like to sell scania to sweden because it's historical path i follow.

[Krozan]

Yup before unpause

Well i did this in beta 1.4, maybe they changed something again

[Tempus Domini est nunc]

Originally posted by Krozan:

Yup before unpause

Well i did this in beta 1.4, maybe they changed something again

I will try again now.. In a new game save.

[Krozan]

If i remember correctly it sell for nearly 700

EDIT : 485 for the cost, but its enough to get rid of all loan

https://gyazo.com/f9b13afbf8c4805653ff26769dbd1761?token=b3e058724eb60f5a6c5b276e5bd5d530

2 month in a game already +5/month with full court

[Tempus Domini est nunc]

Originally posted by Krozan:

If i remember correctly it sell for nearly 700

EDIT : 485 for the cost, but its enough to get rid of all loan

https://gyazo.com/f9b13afbf8c4805653ff26769dbd1761?token=b3e058724eb60f5a6c5b276e5bd5d530

2 month in a game already +5/month with full court

Donno how to sell art. Anyways, clearly you do something i do not. Because after already 1 month i already am on -1/month. Guess i suck at this type of game..
But, questions, does it not hurt denmark even further to sell arts!? Maybe i need DLC or something?? Also i see a 35+ thousand people about to leave Denmark? Not sure if this is good or bad? But damn you're still a freakin magician non the less i got to admit :D .

[Adramelech]

I was just about to throw in the towel as well.. Ive been trying with maxing minting.. until the first Scania War but income just goes lower and lower and loans are just piling up.. Im gonna try the selling art thing.

[Adramelech]

Originally posted by Krozan:

If i remember correctly it sell for nearly 700

EDIT : 485 for the cost, but its enough to get rid of all loan

https://gyazo.com/f9b13afbf8c4805653ff26769dbd1761?token=b3e058724eb60f5a6c5b276e5bd5d530

2 month in a game already +5/month with full court

How do you have such a big trade income jeez?

[Krozan]

Originally posted by Tempus Domini est nunc:

Donno how to sell art. Anyways, clearly you do something i do not. Because after already 1 month i already am on -1/month. Guess i suck at this type of game..:medidynasty_death:
But, questions, does it not hurt denmark even further to sell arts!? Maybe i need DLC or something?? Also i see a 35+ thousand people about to leave Denmark? Not sure if this is good or bad? But damn you're still a freakin magician non the less i got to admit :D .

When u sell art it only lower your prestige so dont worry. Its a diplomatic action in economic. I only have the first DLC but i dont think its needed to sell art, it was part of a free update if im right.

-35k come from estonia release

Originally posted by Adramelech:

How do you have such a big trade income jeez?

Idk ive just put it in auto it was just for trying out if what i done in beta still works, and that works